Which VST sampler for random triggering?

[Mr D]

Hi folks,

I want to do the following:

* Create a drum sound with Eurorack modules
* Record 50 variations of the sound with subtle variations
* Load the 50 samples onto a single key (say C3) of a sampler plugin
* Have a different sample trigger (randomly, not based on velocity or whatever) each time C3 is triggered

Does anyone have suggestions for a VST sampler that can easily achieve this without jumping through too many hoops?

Thanks in advance!

[Gamma-UT]

If you're using Live, you can rig this kind of thing up using a bunch of Simplers inside a drum rack inserted onto one pad of another drum rack. This tutorial should get you most of the way there: https://help.ableton.com/hc/en-us/artic ... e-playback

[Mr D]

Thanks, i should have mentioned, my DAW is Cubase!

[ere2learn]

Look for "round robin" playback in one of the stock samplers with cubase?

[Gamma-UT]

A lot of default round robin support in samplers is cyclic rather than random, though the big-name ones tend to have ways of doing random selection. In the full version of Halion, for example, there is the Layer Alternate MIDI module which has a choice of random and cyclic options.

The pro version of TX16w I think has a random selector for its wave/group switcher function.

Klevgrand's One Shot is possibly the simplest to set up here as you pretty much just drag the samples onto the pad and use a switch to do random selection for round robins.

[Mr D]

Thanks, Klevgrand looks interesting and nicely simple.

But damn, it's pretty pricey!...... i guess it's the included library you're paying for, which i probably won't use ..... sad face emoji.

As a side note, i like the music in the demos on their website, its very rare that i hear anything i might consider "good music" in product demos!

[Gamma-UT]

The low-cost option is to route the C3 notes from a MIDI track in Cubase to an instrument track with a regular multi-sampler, with one sample per note, and use the MIDI transformer or modifier plugin to randomise the transformed note pitch across the range of notes.

[pljones]

(As a hardcore Sforzando user...) It's pretty trivial to do something like that in SFZ.
(in fact, if you wanted them triggered at random, rather than by hitting a note... yeah, you can do that too...)

[enroe]

* Create a drum sound with Eurorack modules
* Record 50 variations of the sound with subtle variations
* Load the 50 samples onto a single key (say C3) of a sampler plugin
* Have a different sample trigger (randomly, not based on velocity or whatever) each time C3 is triggered

Yes, just as pljones mentioned, it is very easy in sfz:

<region> hirand=0.25 sample=kick_vl1_rr1.wav
<region> lorand=0.25 hirand=0.5 sample=kick_vl1_rr2.wav
<region> lorand=0.5 hirand=0.75 sample=kick_vl1_rr3.wav
<region> lorand=0.75 sample=kick_vl1_rr4.wav

This is an example for 4 different drum samples, but you can do the
same for your 50 samples. Check it out here: sfz-format: lorand.

There are many sfz samplers that work wonderfully as VSTi in Cubase.

[DSmolken]

Glad somebody already posted an example of lorand/hirand so I don't have to, heh.