SubMission Audio PreFire (11 Neural Network preamps)

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https://www.submissionaudio.com/products/prefire



Bring your tracks to life with the rich analogue tone of 11 legendary microphone preamps, hand-captured with next generation neural network technology.

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Introducing: PreFire
For over 30 years, engineers and producers have sought the analogue magic lost when studios transitioned from pristine, large-format analogue consoles to digital workflows. While digital was inevitable, early plugins often missed the essential non-linearities and harmonic saturation that defined classic gear. Even today's best models frequently compromise accuracy to save CPU power.

PreFire changes everything.

Utilizing advanced neural networks, PreFire captures every nuance and unique sonic detail of 11 legendary preamps across their entire gain ranges. From subtle enhancements of depth, width, and thickness, to rich saturation and extreme distortion, PreFire provides the authentic analogue character that defined countless timeless records.

PreFire is the ultimate Swiss army knife for your productions.

The Preamps
PreFire includes a suite of 11 legendary studio preamps, hand-selected for their unique tone and ability to bring something special to your music.
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:shrug:

I suspect the flood of AI captured plugins are upon us. Low effort, easy to do.. soon there will be thousands of these. Probably most of them free and provided by the general public.

So far I've counted 7 different companies trying to sell these kinds of things. It's mostly preamps and "easy to capture" things. Some adventurous souls have started providing compressors but most of them are questionable quality.
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fwiw from the developer on another forum: "These preamps were modeled with custom parametric neural networks developed with NAM creator Steve Ack, which are capable of capturing the entire range of the knob, not just a “snapshot” like open source NAM."

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bmanic wrote: Tue May 13, 2025 8:35 pm :shrug:

I suspect the flood of AI captured plugins are upon us. Low effort, easy to do.. soon there will be thousands of these. Probably most of them free and provided by the general public.

So far I've counted 7 different companies trying to sell these kinds of things. It's mostly preamps and "easy to capture" things. Some adventurous souls have started providing compressors but most of them are questionable quality.
Definitely a cash grab. Way too expensive for this over-saturated market.

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It's not like NAM is the only thing in town. Can't say much on this topic but let's just say feeding neural networks with data and manipulating that data isn't exactly rocket science. Heck, you can even use AI to assist you in figuring it out. :hihi:

My point is this: The market will be absolutely and completely saturated by these kinds of plugins in the near future. It's the early birds who are now desperately trying to cash in while they can.
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Think that's a bit reductive. Making an MVP of a lot of stuff is pretty easy. That doesn't mean there isn't scope to do it badly or well.

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Cool tech for sure, but it's like 12 years too late. Are people still chasing Neve preamp emulations in 2025?

With True Iron, Spectre, Kelvin, and a million other highly convincing algo-based emulations of specific hardware units already on the market, is there really need for this kind of thing? Even Pro-Q v4 includes a fairly convincing console circuit emulation.

I did listen to a demo of the product on the Youtubes. It was good/fine/ok. Nothing that most people don't already own 20 other alternatives for.

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I dunno, probably not. The germainium and Neve mode in this plugin do an intersting gated breakup sound when pushed. Arturia Coldfire does it well too in its germainum mic mode. Is that what a real Neve sounds like? No idea... but Kelvin doesn't do anything like that. All its models sound basically the same when pushed and not nearly as interesting.

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Especially since they seem to be CPU heavy, which makes the concept of having preamps on many different channels pretty useless.

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