New DAW. Lookin for a beta-testers

[Charlie Firpo]

So, has anyone tried Ultradaw tracker yet? What are your thoughts?

[lofasz]

Promising, but it freezes during VST3 scanning.

[VOODOO U]

Unable to get audio recording to work (it does see the interface) and it doesn't scan the VST3/CLAP folders. It could be user error (as far as general usage) being that the UI layout is a bit busy. Documentation and/or vids would help.

[DJ_Indikator]

For example, start_processing / stop_processing is it even needed or not?

Yes, calls to those have to be done by the host. (From the audio thread, which can be a bit irritating since you need to keep track if you already started processing for the plugin. Calling start_processing again while the plugin is already processing is an error.)

Ok. Did i need call this in each call of process() or just after start plugin works (start_processing) and before plugin unload (stop_processing) ? Now i realize it in last manner. in other words - something like this:

on start
plugin->activate(...) //ui thread
plugin->start_processing(...) //audio thread

on stop
plugin->stop_processing(...) //audio thread
plugin->deactivate(...) //ui thread

right?

[DJ_Indikator]

I would love to try this out but on Windows 10 it crashes to desktop as soon as it tries to scan my VST folders.

Hello there. Please send me crash dump (it' must be in ultradaw run catalog). My mail is software@mak-sa.net. Thanx

[DJ_Indikator]

With errors of VST3 scan - please reload last version from my site or from github. Some minor bugs was found and fixed. If application crashed, there is couple of files with crash info : udaw_crash_project.upf, udaw_crash.log in application working direcatory. Please send it to software@mak-sa.net

Thank you

[Charlie Firpo]

So i finally tested this. First impressions: i like the looks of it. But i'm having a hard time adding vst's. I go to "view" and select plugins catalog. The only thing i changed was the default vst2 path. But as soon as i press "rescan", the program terminates.

Dj_indikator: What is the easiest way to load a vst? I managed to do it once, but can't repeat it.(i believe i draged a vst from the file menu to the multitrack) This is how far i've got: 1) Start Ultradaw. 2) Add a mixer track. 3) Add a tracker pattern 4) Load instrument/vst (?)

[mcbpete]

Promising, but it freezes during VST3 scanning.

Tried the previous 2 versions (one from 20 hours ago from typing this, and the previous one with initial VST3 support). The default VST3 & CLAP path is correct, if I try to add the VST2 path (C:\Program Files\VstPlugins\) using the file browser it instantly causes the app to terminate, adding the path manually (i.e. typing in the path) is OK, but then it doesn't actually scan them ! (Clicking 'rescan' just brings up a window saying:

Plugin Scanner
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but doesn't then do any scanning). Presumably when I've entered the vst2,3 & clap paths and click rescan it's meant to then populate my plugins list? Tried loading the app as just a normal user and as administrator.

The Amiga mouse pointer replacement is a fun touch and a throwback to when I first used trackers (OctaMED 3 back in '92) though everything is a little small on my 4k display too, could do with a GUI scaling option)

I'm really looking forward to seeing the progression of this though - I've yet to find me a DAW that can successfully encompass the modern 'left to right arrangement view with parameter automation nodes', with the tracker way of programming notes (and precise parameter modulation). Long time owner of Ableton (and even longer of Jeskola Buzz) but if the two of them got together for happy-times to make a hybrid DAW baby that'd be amazing.

[Charlie Firpo]

A fast update: Since it terminated the app when rescanning the full vst2 map, i tried something else: i choosed a single instrument map inside the full vst2 folder and then the scanning worked. (For that single vst2 instrument). Then it proceeded to scan vst3 files. Everything looked fine, but after several vst3 scanning "ok" the program terminated again.

So i repeated the above procedure again and this time i pressed the big "ok" button manually on the prompt before the program had a chance to terminate. So it managed to scan a a couple of them .

Edit: So i've succesfully loaded both a vst2 and a vst3 now. Everything runs fine so far. (Except the plugin scanning that is). I really like the multitrack/daw timeline. Will continue testing.

[DJ_Indikator]

So i finally tested this. First impressions: i like the looks of it. But i'm having a hard time adding vst's. I go to "view" and select plugins catalog. The only thing i changed was the default vst2 path. But as soon as i press "rescan", the program terminates.

Dj_indikator: What is the easiest way to load a vst? I managed to do it once, but can't repeat it.(i believe i draged a vst from the file menu to the multitrack) This is how far i've got: 1) Start Ultradaw. 2) Add a mixer track. 3) Add a tracker pattern 4) Load instrument/vst (?)

thanks for detailed description. yes. there was a problem with compiler. other versions (compiled with other flags) works fine. hope fixed it within a day or two.

The easiest way to load - yes, drag *.dll from file browser (select "Plugins" tab) to mixer area upon of fader (area for inserts or in "Track info" to "Ins" panel. The synth - double click on *.dll. It will try to load active track as synth. Make to TODO LIST ability of drag to tracks.

[DJ_Indikator]

Promising, but it freezes during VST3 scanning.

Tried the previous 2 versions (one from 20 hours ago from typing this, and the previous one with initial VST3 support). The default VST3 & CLAP path is correct, if I try to add the VST2 path (C:\Program Files\VstPlugins\) using the file browser it instantly causes the app to terminate, adding the path manually (i.e. typing in the path) is OK, but then it doesn't actually scan them ! (Clicking 'rescan' just brings up a window saying:

Plugin Scanner
------------------

but doesn't then do any scanning). Presumably when I've entered the vst2,3 & clap paths and click rescan it's meant to then populate my plugins list? Tried loading the app as just a normal user and as administrator.

The Amiga mouse pointer replacement is a fun touch and a throwback to when I first used trackers (OctaMED 3 back in '92) though everything is a little small on my 4k display too, could do with a GUI scaling option)

I'm really looking forward to seeing the progression of this though - I've yet to find me a DAW that can successfully encompass the modern 'left to right arrangement view with parameter automation nodes', with the tracker way of programming notes (and precise parameter modulation). Long time owner of Ableton (and even longer of Jeskola Buzz) but if the two of them got together for happy-times to make a hybrid DAW baby that'd be amazing.

Yes, there a little bug with VST2 scan. Clear path to vst2 and scan vst3/clap - will be works fine. There no GUI scaling now. Sorry. This feature in my TODO list, but a bit late.

Yes, i'll try to make such type of hybrid. Hope make clip launcher this year.

[DJ_Indikator]

A fast update: Since it terminated the app when rescanning the full vst2 map, i tried something else: i choosed a single instrument map inside the full vst2 folder and then the scanning worked. (For that single vst2 instrument). Then it proceeded to scan vst3 files. Everything looked fine, but after several vst3 scanning "ok" the program terminated again.

So i repeated the above procedure again and this time i pressed the big "ok" button manually on the prompt before the program had a chance to terminate. So it managed to scan a a couple of them .

Edit: So i've succesfully loaded both a vst2 and a vst3 now. Everything runs fine so far. (Except the plugin scanning that is). I really like the multitrack/daw timeline. Will continue testing.

Thanx a lot. VST2/VST3 is very messed area coz so many plugins not 100% follow the Steinberg's standard. I wrote VST2 about 2 years ago and all fine with my collection (~ 200 pieces), but some plugins crashed with some compilers. It's hard to locate errors in this case. VST3 done within last 5 month and of course there might be errors.

[mcbpete]

Yes, there a little bug with VST2 scan. Clear path to vst2 and scan vst3/clap - will be works fine.

Aha, yep it's started scanning my VST3 collection now - thanks

EDIT: Well it managed 4 out of my 100s of VST3s before closing anyway Reached as far as Arturia's Acid V and then it instantly closed. Tried 3 times with the same result

[DJ_Indikator]

Please reload latest build. Will fix VST2 scan error. Some plugins dont like twisted heap management fix with compiler options, not code. If VST3 will continue crashes - tell me фтв I'll add a log file entry to know exactly which plugin is crashing.

[mcbpete]

Grabbed the version you uploaded about half an hour ago and unfortunately it still crashes after scanning Acid V - Just sent an email to you with a dump/crash log. Fingers crossed it reveals something useful