What would electronic music sound like if computers had never been invented?
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- KVRAF
- 2063 posts since 13 Dec, 2016
Imagine a world where electronic music evolved without computers. No DAWs, no plugins, no digital sampling, no MIDI as we know it. Analog tech still exists, but it’s been pushed to extremes. Tape, voltage control, mechanical sequencing, modular insanity. Everything built from physical processes and raw electricity.
What kind of music would have evolved?
How would instruments, workflows, and styles differ?
Would techno even exist? Would musique concrète be mainstream?
Would we have built physical grooveboxes the size of furniture? Would something like FM synthesis ever emerge, or would everything be subtractive and noisy and tactile? So many questions..
What kind of music would have evolved?
How would instruments, workflows, and styles differ?
Would techno even exist? Would musique concrète be mainstream?
Would we have built physical grooveboxes the size of furniture? Would something like FM synthesis ever emerge, or would everything be subtractive and noisy and tactile? So many questions..
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- KVRian
- 991 posts since 24 May, 2024
I think it would be surprisingly the same.
Even a simle R-F circuit with a variable resistor can yield a nice filter sweep if done right.
Other analog circuits can do oscillators. In fact the basics of analog syntheis brings us most of our contemporary sounds.
Without digital editing, there was still tape edits and tape loops and the technology kept on improving.
Even without MIDI other similar sync tools existed. But yeah, if there was no MIDI that would be a real setback.
I think the music would be very melodic and synthpoppy.
But analog sequencers can do a lot too, so maybe we'd still have decent arps and drums and stuff.
I guess what maybe would have been the most different is the PRICE.
Computers and MIDI helped bring costs down tremendously.
Right?
Even a simle R-F circuit with a variable resistor can yield a nice filter sweep if done right.
Other analog circuits can do oscillators. In fact the basics of analog syntheis brings us most of our contemporary sounds.
Without digital editing, there was still tape edits and tape loops and the technology kept on improving.
Even without MIDI other similar sync tools existed. But yeah, if there was no MIDI that would be a real setback.
I think the music would be very melodic and synthpoppy.
But analog sequencers can do a lot too, so maybe we'd still have decent arps and drums and stuff.
I guess what maybe would have been the most different is the PRICE.
Computers and MIDI helped bring costs down tremendously.
Right?
- KVRAF
- 20718 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
- Beware the Quoth
- 35433 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Hainbach.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
- KVRAF
- 10133 posts since 16 Dec, 2002
It would sound like the electronic music that was made before computers came on the scene, just go and take a listen, theres decades of it on the internet free to learn from
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- KVRAF
- 7167 posts since 23 Nov, 2016 from a small city
Any excuse to post that Delia Derbyshire track
(And yes, it's a bit old hat now, but is OT)
As said above - cost would be the main thing. Would that've lead to so many innovations. Probably not.
- Beware the Quoth
- 35433 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Unlikely. The first proper computer-based audio software was written in 1957, and there werent analog devices being sold as 'synthesisers' until the mid 60s.VariKusBrainZ wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 9:22 am It would sound like the electronic music that was made before computers came on the scene
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
- KVRAF
- 14130 posts since 20 Nov, 2003 from Lost and Spaced
Probably a lot like The Birds soundtrack. This would be your home studio:

//Chemistry professor Hiller founded the Experimental Music Studio at the University of Illinois in 1958. He and mathematician Leonard Isaacson developed the algorithms that the Illiac I computer used to compose the Illiac Suite for String Quartet.//

//Chemistry professor Hiller founded the Experimental Music Studio at the University of Illinois in 1958. He and mathematician Leonard Isaacson developed the algorithms that the Illiac I computer used to compose the Illiac Suite for String Quartet.//
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- KVRist
- 84 posts since 15 Jan, 2025
I like noodles as much as anyone, but not for breakfast, dinner and tea.
- KVRAF
- 13741 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
Depends on where one places his particular "style" of experimentation, discovery, and 'expression', in the "evolutionary" process. The beginning? The end? A 'bookmark/hallmark' ? Or as (merely) a personalized facet in an ever expanding cacophony of meaningful, and/or meaningless, noise. It's quite subjective, me finks.markello wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 12:52 pm
I like noodles as much as anyone, but not for breakfast, dinner and tea.
But "evolution" is, as evolution does, and the microprocessor, is part of that process:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mu_Modular_System
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I'm not a musician, but I've designed sounds that others use to make music. http://soundcloud.com/obsidiananvil
- Beware the Quoth
- 35433 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Indeed. And one would have to wonder where the definition of 'computer' is within the question.Shabdahbriah wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 1:45 pmnd the microprocessor, is part of that process:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-mu_Modular_System
If the analog computer had never existed, we'd possibly be without a lot of analog synthesis building blocks.
And a Turing Machine module definitely isnt what most people would call a computer, but it does prove that relatively simple digital logic can produce quite complex results/behaviour we'd now expect to be computerised (as does the ancient second-hand MIDI noise gate I have where all the MIDI triggering etc is handled by discrete digital logic gates on ICs.)
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
- addled muppet weed
- 111275 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
theremin, lots of theremin.
- KVRian
- 1161 posts since 20 Oct, 2023
Which is what circuitry is composed of and computers are made up of circuits so this thread is null and void. Next question:enCiphered wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 11:16 pm Everything built from physical processes and raw electricity.
What would.music sound like if theory was never invented? I think it would sound like Japanese noise rock.
- KVRAF
- 8563 posts since 2 Aug, 2005 from Guitar Land, USA
It would be all cheap subtractive synths. Computers made it possible for 3x multiplication synths, without the hard soldering and component understandings, because you definitely can't BUY anything powerful.
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