Joystick* rather than a mouse: what´s there ? (* edit: it´s a vertical mouse)

[Funky40]

Hello,

there is this studio guy in this video, he is using some sort of joystick as a mouse replacement.
What product is that, anybody in the knows ?


works from 0:24 on, but from 2:20 you see it nicely in action:



(i´m on mac, if that makes a difference)

and: not triggering here a SW vs- HW Sound discussion, haha

[zerocrossing]

It's a mouse, not a joystick. It's just vertically configured to be more ergonomic. Maybe something like this?

https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Wireless-V ... B00BIFNTMC

I prefer a big trackball, like the Kensington Expert Mouse.

[Funky40]

It's a mouse, not a joystick.

ahh, now i understand ! my brain connected the mousepad to the mouse, and made a Joystick out of it, haha.

I prefer a big trackball, like the Kensington Expert Mouse.

I allways wondered about Trackballs. I once had one long ago. That was not good

i prefer a Trackpad for most things.
but i need to look for another solution vs. drawing CC curvatures by hand within my host.
something where extreme precision -while moving slow- is doable. (well, my TP is setup for very high speed/acceleration)

EDIT: i had to do a left-press while drawing !
Trackball good for that ?

[foosnark]

I have found that trackball designs vary a lot. I hated some of them and loved others -- you have to find one that lets your hand sit and rest comfortably. The original Logitech Trackman Marble was great I thought, but lacked a scroll wheel and extra buttons, and later revisions were ergonomically a lot different. The Elecom HUGE was pretty good too, until it just stopped working.

These days I use an angled mouse, which matches the position my hand and thumb naturally fall into when resting it on a desk. I still have mixed feelings about it. I think it's better for gaming than most trackballs generally, but I do kind of miss using a good trackball.

On laptop keyboards I always liked the little nubby joystick thing that sits between the G and H keys, more than a trackpad. Or the slightly weird version on a Packard-Bell laptop (going back in time a bit!) where the J key could tilt/slide a little bit to control the cursor... it was like controlling it telepathically. Literally everything else about that computer sucked, though.

[zerocrossing]

It's a mouse, not a joystick.

ahh, now i understand ! my brain connected the mousepad to the mouse, and made a Joystick out of it, haha.

I prefer a big trackball, like the Kensington Expert Mouse.

I allways wondered about Trackballs. I once had one long ago. That was not good

i prefer a Trackpad for most things.
but i need to look for another solution vs. drawing CC curvatures by hand within my host.
something where extreme precision -while moving slow- is doable. (well, my TP is setup for very high speed/acceleration)

EDIT: i had to do a left-press while drawing !
Trackball good for that ?

Trackballs are wildly different. I have some old Logitech one that I absolutely hate, but I keep it around for an emergency. What I like about the Kensington is that the ball is big and there's a good amount of area to rest your hand. The feel of it is just good, not cheap. I do use it for basic drawing in Photoshop and Illustrator and the left-press works fine, though these days, if I have any decent amount of drawing to do, I'll just go to my old iPad Pro and Pencil.

[zerocrossing]

I have found that trackball designs vary a lot. I hated some of them and loved others -- you have to find one that lets your hand sit and rest comfortably. The original Logitech Trackman Marble was great I thought, but lacked a scroll wheel and extra buttons, and later revisions were ergonomically a lot different. The Elecom HUGE was pretty good too, until it just stopped working.

These days I use an angled mouse, which matches the position my hand and thumb naturally fall into when resting it on a desk. I still have mixed feelings about it. I think it's better for gaming than most trackballs generally, but I do kind of miss using a good trackball.

On laptop keyboards I always liked the little nubby joystick thing that sits between the G and H keys, more than a trackpad. Or the slightly weird version on a Packard-Bell laptop (going back in time a bit!) where the J key could tilt/slide a little bit to control the cursor... it was like controlling it telepathically. Literally everything else about that computer sucked, though.

Ah, the old IBM nipple! Great design! My wife had it on a laptop and I wondered why that type of thing didn't get used more often.

[pekbro]

Trackballs are pretty easy to get used to ime. Mostly I've just got to have a nice mechanical keyboard if at all possible, that and a good fast polling mouse and I'm set. Ridiculously, I was just considering financing a nice keyboard and mouse set the other day, since they offered it for free. heh

The thinkpad erasers, they were ok, but I seem to recall encountering a few that had broken off on some work computers.

[zerocrossing]

Trackballs are pretty easy to get used to ime. Mostly I've just got to have a nice mechanical keyboard if at all possible, that and a good fast polling mouse and I'm set. Ridiculously, I was just considering financing a nice keyboard and mouse set the other day, since they offered it for free. heh

The thinkpad erasers, they were ok, but I seem to recall encountering a few that had broken off on some work computers.

My wife is obsessed with something she calls, "creamy keyboards." I'd call them "clacky" keyboards, and they do sort of have a nice feel and sound, but they're pretty loud. I got her one for Christmas and it looks like something you'd use at Lumon Industries for Microdata Refinement. Very pretty shade of blue. It was about $150, if memory serves. I'm currently using a wireless Logitech keyboard that I got on a Buy Nothing group off Facebook, because that's how little I really care.

[pekbro]

If it's mechanical, you can literally swap them out, they have different grades of click feel/noise and whatnot on keys worth gen 50 million presses or something. Many are pretty serious about their keyboards. I'm not that bad fortunately, I have one I bought about 14 yrs ago now, that will likely last forever. I just happen to find myself in need of another.

I've not yet found a forever mouse tho, sadly...

[foosnark]

I do like a mechanical keyboard. Instead of dealing with the cheapass keyboard that came with my work machine I have a Logitech gaming keyboard with Kailh brown switches plus o-rings to dampen them a bit, and at home I have a compact tenkeyless Akko with their Jelly Pink switches and doubled-up o-rings. Both these keyboards were fairly cheap by mechanical keyboard standards and I'm not really a "keeb" hobbyist or anything.

I don't know that I actually type any more accurately or that it's better for gaming or anything... I just like the feel.

[BertKoor]

o-rings

Not your fault, but that's a pleonasm.

[foosnark]

o-rings

Not your fault, but that's a pleonasm.

I guess on the Akko where I am stacking two per key, it's oo-rings.

[Bunny_boy]

o-rings

Not your fault, but that's a pleonasm.

It is, but it's an actual thing
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/O-ring

The prolixity of engineers

[foosnark]

Huh, the "O" refers to the shape of the cross-section, instead of what it looks like from above. I didn't realize that. That's different from D rings, C clamps, S-biners, etc.

[zerocrossing]

I do like a mechanical keyboard. Instead of dealing with the cheapass keyboard that came with my work machine I have a Logitech gaming keyboard with Kailh brown switches plus o-rings to dampen them a bit, and at home I have a compact tenkeyless Akko with their Jelly Pink switches and doubled-up o-rings. Both these keyboards were fairly cheap by mechanical keyboard standards and I'm not really a "keeb" hobbyist or anything.

I don't know that I actually type any more accurately or that it's better for gaming or anything... I just like the feel.

I'm sure I'd like it more too, it's just sort of low priority. I think if I were a coder, or had a job where writing was central to the work, I'd probably get one. Most of my writing is on social media and forums, and I'm basically always on a MacBook or my phone for those things. I'll fully admit that I want one of those high end keyboards because of the aesthetic of it. This is the one I bought my wife. She loves it.

https://nuphy.com/collections/keyboards ... 5839665261