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electro · Post by **electro** » Sat Jun 07, 2025 2:06 pm

emagic Logic

electro · Post by **electro** » Sat Jun 07, 2025 2:08 pm

Does the evp73 softsynth engine still come built into Logic?

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Sat Jun 07, 2025 2:18 pm

electro wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 2:08 pm Does the evp73 softsynth engine still come built into Logic?

Sure. And it's sort of expanded as in there being new models added.

cincyjack · Post by **cincyjack** » Sat Jun 07, 2025 4:29 pm

Damn shame Alchemy was subsumed.
Loved that thing.
Still use it on PC, but I reckon some day it’s gonna croak.

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Sat Jun 07, 2025 4:43 pm

Every time this thread is kicked to the top, it's a reminder Alchemy is never coming back to PC. It an old wound to be reminded of when Ben took the cash..

wikter · Post by **wikter** » Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:16 pm

VitaminD wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 4:43 pm Every time this thread is kicked to the top, it's a reminder Alchemy is never coming back to PC. It an old wound to be reminded of when Ben took the cash..

Let's talk about eMagic...

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:29 pm

Sascha Franck wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 12:27 pm
Touch The Universe wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 12:23 pm Was it necessary for them to go out of business though, why not start a new company. Seems like they just retired with all the cash - that's on them - more love of money than plugins.
They're not out of business. They're now working and paid for/by Apple - which is pretty much the polar opposite of being out of business.

'Camel Audio' (limited) doesn't exist anymore, the people who worked for camel audio now work for Apple- they exist and probably did well from the deal, but its still unlikely 'Apple' will developed instruments for PC!

fedexnman · Post by **fedexnman** » Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:30 pm

I'm happy for the Camel Audio guys . Yes they SOLD out to Apple but hey I'm glad they got that lotto ticket(Alchemy ) and won .

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:38 pm

Do they develope anything outside of Logic? (No AU instruments- iPad Alchemy?)

Sascha Franck · Post by **Sascha Franck** » Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:46 pm

SLiC wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:38 pm Do they develope anything outside of Logic? (No AU instruments- iPad Alchemy?)

Alchemy should be included in the iPad version of Logic. So there's very certainly no standalone version.
And as far as anything else goes, as said, people hired by Apple aren't allowed to do any related businesses outside of Apple.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:59 pm

Sascha Franck wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:46 pm
SLiC wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:38 pm Do they develope anything outside of Logic? (No AU instruments- iPad Alchemy?)
Alchemy should be included in the iPad version of Logic. So there's very certainly no standalone version.
And as far as anything else goes, as said, people hired by Apple aren't allowed to do any related businesses outside of Apple.

Thanks, that's what I thought, unfortunately Logic is subscription only on the iPad, I don't use it enough for that.

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Sat Jun 07, 2025 6:33 pm

wikter wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 5:16 pm
VitaminD wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 4:43 pm Every time this thread is kicked to the top, it's a reminder Alchemy is never coming back to PC. It an old wound to be reminded of when Ben took the cash..
Let's talk about eMagic...

I wasn't a Logic Audio user but, yes, that's more pain. Anything Apple touches is pain in the long term..

fisherKing · Post by **fisherKing** » Sat Jun 07, 2025 6:36 pm

VitaminD wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 6:33 pm Anything Apple touches is pain in the long term..

is it? not here, and i've been on macs for a looong time. i love my silicon macbook, having a great time with logic... and alchemy is awesome.

it's 2025, the 'mac vs pc' thing is ridiculous

VitaminD · Post by **VitaminD** » Sat Jun 07, 2025 7:54 pm

fisherKing wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 6:36 pm
VitaminD wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 6:33 pm Anything Apple touches is pain in the long term..
is it? not here, and i've been on macs for a looong time. i love my silicon macbook, having a great time with logic... and alchemy is awesome.

it's 2025, the 'mac vs pc' thing is ridiculous

Then why rebut and thus open the door to starting a longer discussion? You had the power to not engage but you chose to. So you can't really roll your eyes and claim you're upset.

My comments weren't even Mac vs PC. It was towards Apple as a corporation. Absorbing nice things and thus removing them from the general population. Often not really developing on them after a time. The blob.

Not that they're alone in this but they do seem to be the one picking off Pro Audio tools the most..

So relax. You don't need to defend your purchases. I'm sure they're fine for your uses, otherwise you wouldn't be using them.

markello · Post by **markello** » Sat Jun 07, 2025 7:55 pm

VitaminD wrote: Sat Jun 07, 2025 4:43 pm Every time this thread is kicked to the top, it's a reminder Alchemy is never coming back to PC.

The thread is from 2008 and has been kicked to the top once, in 2025.

But yes, it is a timely reminder, for sure.

I sold my copy when CA said they'd sold the company -- I seem to remember we got months notice -- then got it back free added to Logic. Well, "the Mac is the dongle" no doubt, but felt good to me. YMMV.

Coming Soon from Camel Audio - Alchemy!