Cytomic 'The Glue' Compressor

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Hi Andy,

Any hopes of implementing the Presonus extension for meters? Would be nice for Reaper and Studio One users. It may even be more the common approach for VST3 plugins.

[jtsterays]

My DAW doesn't have this meter so I'm kinda oblivious, what happens when there are multiple compressors that support DAW meter on 1 track, would it show the total GR from all of them or just 1?

[meloco_go]

News: The Glue v1.7.8 is available for download

The Glue v1.7.8 (3 May 2025)
https://cytomic.com/product/glue
• New: added “read only” VuMeter parameter to report the main VU gain reduction needle position to AAX and VST3 DAWs that support metering

GR metering does not appear in REAPER. It does work with Softube/Waves.

I support VST3 read only parameter meters, as well as AAX meters. If REAPER supports either of those then it will work fine. I'm pretty sure REAPER only supports the Presonus VST3 extensions for metering, which I have not implemented.

Thank you. Do you plan these for the future?

[andy-cytomic]

Hi Andy,

Any hopes of implementing the Presonus extension for meters? Would be nice for Reaper and Studio One users. It may even be more the common approach for VST3 plugins.

I am using the built in Juce support for meters, so I'm kinda surprised they don't already support the Presonus extensions for this. I'll have a look into it this coming week. It looks like someone did this for AAX, and someone added the much more complicated support for the Presonus ARA extensions (embedded custom timeline type editors) but skipped passing on through the compression meter value.

[andy-cytomic]

News: The Glue v1.7.9 is available for download, which adds support for the VST3 version of The Glue to report gain reduction metering to Reaper and Studio One

The Glue v1.7.9 (5 May 2025)
https://cytomic.com/product/glue
• New: added support for the Presonus VST3 IGainReductionInfo extension for reporting of the main VU gain reduction needle position in VST3 DAWs that support this

[meloco_go]

News: The Glue v1.7.9 is available for download, which adds support for the VST3 version of The Glue to report gain reduction metering to Reaper and Studio One

The Glue v1.7.9 (5 May 2025)
https://cytomic.com/product/glue
• New: added support for the Presonus VST3 IGainReductionInfo extension for reporting of the main VU gain reduction needle position in VST3 DAWs that support this

Works as promised!

PS when the GUI is closed, GR meter stops updating. Perhaps needle position is not refreshed in the background to save resources?

[andy-cytomic]

News: The Glue v1.7.10 is available for download. Thanks to everyone that let me know the needle didn't update when the UI is closed, sorry for the bug. All fixed now.

The Glue v1.7.10 (6 May 2025)
https://cytomic.com/product/glue
• Fix: VU gain reduction needle position now calculated separately for Glue UI and the value reported to the DAW so when the UI is closed so the DAW VU updates as expected.

[comfortablynick]

Fixes the GR meter issue for me, thanks!!

[andy-cytomic]

Fixes the GR meter issue for me, thanks!!

Great, good to hear

[comfortablynick]

I tried it on Mac and I'm not seeing the GR meter at all. When I switch to another plugin, I see it. Anyone else having this issue? I'm on 1.7.10 VST3

[andy-cytomic]

I tried it on Mac and I'm not seeing the GR meter at all. When I switch to another plugin, I see it. Anyone else having this issue? I'm on 1.7.10 VST3

Can you please email support@cytomic.com from your Cytomic account email so I can look into this further?

[comfortablynick]

I tried it on Mac and I'm not seeing the GR meter at all. When I switch to another plugin, I see it. Anyone else having this issue? I'm on 1.7.10 VST3

Can you please email support@cytomic.com from your Cytomic account email so I can look into this further?

I just tried it again and now I see the meter. I don't know what I did to get GR output from another plugin but not The Glue, but I messed it up somehow. Sorry about that.

[andy-cytomic]

I just tried it again and now I see the meter. I don't know what I did to get GR output from another plugin but not The Glue, but I messed it up somehow. Sorry about that.

No worries, good to hear it's working!

[andy-cytomic]

A quick update: I've got "sub-circuits" up and running for the Cytomic Circuit Solver, which is a standard and really useful feature of regular Spice type circuit simulators. This means I can generate chunks of re-usable circuits, and quickly swap between which one is used, say for example multiple different levels of detail for op-amp models in a circuit. I'll post a technical article soon on the web page about it in more detail, but it's a very powerful feature that is another step on the way to doing Cytomic's most detailed model yet for The Glue v2.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

A quick update: I've got "sub-circuits" up and running for the Cytomic Circuit Solver, which is a standard and really useful feature of regular Spice type circuit simulators. This means I can generate chunks of re-usable circuits, and quickly swap between which one is used, say for example multiple different levels of detail for op-amp models in a circuit.

Sounds like great progress, Andy! With developments like sub-circuits coming online, how much more big R&D work do you think is still ahead before you can start really operationalizing all this (i.e. getting plugins out the door that leverage the new tech)? The R&D itself is super cool, but of course, it's ultimately a means to an end. I genuinely hope you're able to reach a point where circuit simulation becomes almost trivial on your end, and it allows you to turn around insanely high-quality plugins, with The Scream-level attention to detail, at a faster pace than before. And I don't say that as a knock or criticism, just more of a wish for a more Cytomic yellow and black future.

I think despite claims from lots of vendors, very few are doing analog emulation at anywhere near the levels you're on the cusp of and it's exciting.