Frequency Block Synthesis
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What does Curtis Roads mean by “wavestacking”?
In Microsound, Curtis Roads uses "wavestacking" to describe:
The layering of multiple short waveforms or grains (often microseconds long),
To create complex, dense textures,
Usually within the frameworks of granular, pulsar, or additive synthesis.
It can involve:
Slight variations in frequency, phase, or amplitude,
Overlapping layers in time and/or frequency,
Often stochastically distributed, not strictly structured.
In Microsound, Curtis Roads uses "wavestacking" to describe:
The layering of multiple short waveforms or grains (often microseconds long),
To create complex, dense textures,
Usually within the frameworks of granular, pulsar, or additive synthesis.
It can involve:
Slight variations in frequency, phase, or amplitude,
Overlapping layers in time and/or frequency,
Often stochastically distributed, not strictly structured.
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Is Curtis Roads’ concept of wavestacking in Microsound a synthesis method?
No, not as he defines it. It is a technique, not a standalone synthesis method.
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There has to be a known synthesis method that is the same as FBS. Please find it.
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FBS is a true synthesis method because it defines its own:
sound-building units (frequency blocks),
transformation process (amplitude shaping),
construction logic (non-overlapping, additive spectral architecture),
and design philosophy (morphological control, not filtering).
It deserves the same methodological status as subtractive, additive, FM, granular, or wavetable synthesis.
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And I won't patent it!
Patent is a selfish thing.
I rather produce instruments and softwares on FBS already as products.
But don't forget, that all software and digital instrument form of FBS method is strictly copyrighted, even if it is hidden in a physical device!
www.denmusic.hu
Patent is a selfish thing.
I rather produce instruments and softwares on FBS already as products.
But don't forget, that all software and digital instrument form of FBS method is strictly copyrighted, even if it is hidden in a physical device!
www.denmusic.hu
- KVRAF
- 16846 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
This is yer O.G. :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_synthesis
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_synthesis
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This is yer O.G. :
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_synthesis
Vector synthesis blends 2–4 different sound sources.
FBS also layers components (frequency blocks).
In vector synthesis, you're changing the volume of sources using a 2D plane.
In FBS, you change the amplitude of spectral blocks.
Vector: balances between timbres.
FBS: balances between frequency regions.
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I'd like to show you, how I see the difference between classical layering and FBS:
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- 35500 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
double-post
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An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- 35500 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
No, he doesnt, Curtis Roads doesnt mention Wavstacking at all in Microsounds, and the definition you are being told he gives does not exist. .Innovative synthesis wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 10:06 pmDoes Curtis Roads mention "wavestacking" in Microsound?
Yes, he does — but not in the same way it’s used in modern EDM contexts (e.g., supersaws), and not in the same structural sense as FBS.
And that's why I suggested you actually check your facts properly.
The AI is giving you false information, and that was entire my point.
If you'd actually bothered to check Microsounds yourself, you'd know that.
Curtis Roads doesnt mention Wavstacking at all in Microsounds. Curtis Roads doesnt mention Wavstacking at all in Microsounds, so the definition you are being told he gives there does not exist.Is Curtis Roads’ concept of wavestacking in Microsound a synthesis method?
No, not as he defines it. It is a technique, not a standalone synthesis method.
That was my point; your AI is giving you false information.
No, he doesnt. Curtis Roads doesnt mention Wavstacking at all in Microsounds, so the definition you are being told he gives there does not exist. That was my point; your AI is giving you false information.What does Curtis Roads mean by “wavestacking”?
In Microsound, Curtis Roads uses "wavestacking" to describe:
The definition he actually provides is in The Computer Music Tutorial, and I already gave you it.
Every AI-based post and assertion you have made is fallacious, and predicated on false information.
Well, it is proven beyond a doubt that it does. Since the only 'evidence' you have provided is so obviously suspect, your entire argument is undermined and dismissable.I don't think an AI would answer false about a well-know sound design technic as Wavestacking
FBS is just a custom set of samples being used in a crude version of wavestacking.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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Your logic is not clean at all.Well, it is proven beyond a doubt that it does. Since the only 'evidence' you have provided is so obviously suspect, your entire argument is undermined and dismissable.
FBS is just a custom set of samples being used in a crude version of wavestacking.
If you try to prove that an AI make mistakes, and you extract it to everything...No. I'm sure you can make mistakes too, but it doesn't mean that all you do and say was a mistake (of course noone proved the opposite either).
I'm waiting for a former known synthesis that is the same as FBS. There has to be.
Until now the closest thing is:
Because if you take 2–3 instrument samples, apply EQs to isolate only lows, mids, or highs, and then layer them —
This resembles the surface behavior of Frequency Block Synthesis.
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- 35500 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Its still wavestacking, Your AI-based argument saying they're different was based entirely on false information.Innovative synthesis wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 8:45 am I'm waiting for a former known synthesis that is the same as FBS.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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Share your reference please as a link or something to know exactly what you are refeerring to as "wavestacking".Its still wavestacking, Your AI-based argument saying they're different was based entirely on false information.
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- 35500 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
I already did. If you'd been reading properly, you'd know that.Innovative synthesis wrote: Wed Jun 11, 2025 9:06 amShare your reference please as a link or something to know exactly what you are refeerring to as "wavestacking".Its still wavestacking, Your AI-based argument saying they're different was based entirely on false information.
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."