REEV-R - A free convolution reverb with modulation

[billinder33]

Next thing I'll probably be working on some drums synth or something similar, this series is done.

Since you're thinking about something drum related, I have a novel plugin idea I'd like to throw out there.

A slicer where you import a drum loop, it automatically slices and eliminates duplicates, hosts the de-duplicated samples into a sequencer grid, which can then randomly generate either patterns or fills based on the user selecting an option for either 'pattern' or 'fill'. Might make sense if the randomizer used some kind of trained AI that can look at the existing pattern and use its training data to come up with logical complementary patterns and fills. Also if the AI could correctly identify, name, and order the slices in the grid.

When you find a pattern or fill you like, it can be assigned to a sequence bank for organization and/or real time play like with most drum machine sequencers. MIDI and audio export back to DAW.

Ambitious, but I bet you could make tens of dollars from developing a plugin like this!!!!

[tilr8]

A slicer where you import a drum loop, it automatically slices and eliminates duplicates, hosts the de-duplicated samples into a sequencer grid, which can then randomly generate either patterns or fills based on the user selecting an option for either 'pattern' or 'fill'. Might make sense if the randomizer used some kind of trained AI that can look at the existing pattern and use its training data to come up with logical complementary patterns and fills. Also if the AI could correctly identify, name, Ave order the slices in the grid.

When you find a pattern or fill you like, it can be assigned to a sequence bank for organization and/or real time play like with most drum machine sequencers. MIDI and audio export back to DAW.

Ambitious, but I bet you could make tens of dollars from developing a plugin like this!!!!

Sounds good, using AI to come up with sounds or arrangements is probably the future, its a bit out of my league, I could probably do the beatslicing by copying existing code from somewhere else, that's about it

[Uncle E]

I could see you doing a beat slicer with a similar interface as your current plugins. For example, every step in the staircase could represent a position in the loop.

beatslicer.jpg

[ere2learn]

Thats what Time-12 is

[tilr8]

I could see you doing a beat slicer with a similar interface as your current plugins. For example, every step in the staircase could represent a position in the loop.

A beat slicer sounds interesting, not sure how the envelopes fit into that though, think midi notes on a piano roll are better for that.

[Uncle E]

Yeah, there's no real need for it. Just thought it would be cool with your interface. There was a program from 20 years ago called Amen that everyone used for chopping jungle breaks, that's basically how it worked.

[tilr8]

Yeah, there's no real need for it. Just thought it would be cool with your interface. There was a program from 20 years ago called Amen that everyone used for chopping jungle breaks, that's basically how it worked.

Could you share which program? I mostly find this when I search "Amen vst", don't think this is it:

[PTV]

I found these:
https://musichackspace.org/the-evolution-of-zs-1-amen/
https://github.com/ziadkhouri/ZS-1-Amen



Can be downloaded from here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20080704043 ... 1amen.html

[billinder33]

A slicer where you import a drum loop, it automatically slices and eliminates duplicates, hosts the de-duplicated samples into a sequencer grid, which can then randomly generate either patterns or fills based on the user selecting an option for either 'pattern' or 'fill'. Might make sense if the randomizer used some kind of trained AI that can look at the existing pattern and use its training data to come up with logical complementary patterns and fills. Also if the AI could correctly identify, name, Ave order the slices in the grid.

When you find a pattern or fill you like, it can be assigned to a sequence bank for organization and/or real time play like with most drum machine sequencers. MIDI and audio export back to DAW.

Ambitious, but I bet you could make tens of dollars from developing a plugin like this!!!!

Sounds good, using AI to come up with sounds or arrangements is probably the future, its a bit out of my league, I could probably do the beatslicing by copying existing code from somewhere else, that's about it

Not a really coder myself, but I do work in a tech adjacent field. My company's software can do call and response to remote AIs via API, but a plugin would require a lightweight embedded model. So I was curious if any lightweight models existed that could translate audio to MIDI, tag the samples, come uo with alternate beats/fills, and be packaged into a VST. Here's what I got back from Gemini:

https://g.co/gemini/share/13e733a2539d

Sounds feasible, but Gemini could just be hallucinating lol. If I had spare time I'd try vibe coding this concept since it addresses a real world problem I have, but life is just too crazy right now. Definitely something I'd like to explore someday when things aren't so hectic.

Anyhow, some food for thought if you ever decide to do an AI plugin in the future. I'm sure whatever you do next will be great!

[tilr8]

I found these:
https://musichackspace.org/the-evolution-of-zs-1-amen/
https://github.com/ziadkhouri/ZS-1-Amen

Can be downloaded from here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20080704043 ... 1amen.html

Thanks, I don't see how it uses envelopes though.

Not a really coder myself, but I do work in a tech adjacent field. My company's software can do call and response to remote AIs via API, but a plugin would require a lightweight embedded model. So I was curious if any lightweight models existed that could translate audio to MIDI, tag the samples, come uo with alternate beats/fills, and be packaged into a VST. Here's what I got back from Gemini:

https://g.co/gemini/share/13e733a2539d

Sounds feasible, but Gemini could just be hallucinating lol. If I had spare time I'd try vibe coding this concept since it addresses a real world problem I have, but life is just too crazy right now. Definitely something I'd like to explore someday when things aren't so hectic.

Anyhow, some food for thought if you ever decide to do an AI plugin in the future. I'm sure whatever you do next will be great!

Sounds interesting, maybe I should learn, but would definitely go for drum generation if I could program AI. 20 megs of memory is not a lot to include in a VST.

[onerob]

It's a cool idea but DrumNet already does this, with the unpaid version being pretty functional. The results are on the lo-fi side.

https://sessionloops.com/drumnet

[osiris]

Can I ask what program you use to code these and which AI and do you pay for it? I can't get (Free and every one available) AI to code a simple oscillator correctly, so I'm curious.

[tilr8]

It's a cool idea but DrumNet already does this, with the unpaid version being pretty functional. The results are on the lo-fi side.

https://sessionloops.com/drumnet

Nice reference, thanks.

Can I ask what program you use to code these and which AI and do you pay for it? I can't get (Free and every one available) AI to code a simple oscillator correctly, so I'm curious.

You these plugins GATE-12, REEV-R etc..? I use visual studio, for prototyping I use reaper JSFX, its a lot faster to get things right and understand DSP (for example oscillators) using JSFX or Ableton MAX or faust or pureData etc.. JSFX has the advantage of being closer to a normal language and makes you understand closely how sound is generator or how each component works, plus there are tons of open source examples, I started with it a couple of years ago and still use it. About AI I use chatGPT and deepseek, the code they produce varies and is usually flawed, so its handy to understand what you are doing first. I started with these videos:

[billinder33]

It's a cool idea but DrumNet already does this, with the unpaid version being pretty functional. The results are on the lo-fi side.

https://sessionloops.com/drumnet

Never heard of this one before. Emergent Drums is the one I know of.

I think if a developer was planning on a generative-only plugin, vocals would probably be the most useful thing. That's the one instrument where there usually aren't a million interchangeable samples on Splice or Landr that can fit the track.

[Uncle E]

https://musichackspace.org/the-evolution-of-zs-1-amen/

Thanks. I think that's the one, it's hard to say because it's been so long. I don't think it was called ZS-1 back then. It also wasn't real-time. What they were planning to was really cool, it's too bad it didn't come to fruition.