KVR Audio

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Wed Jan 29, 2025 8:18 pm

I should point out a fact I omitted per K7 in VE Pro 7: the issues are unique to the AU version. VST3 does not have either of those issues. I began instantiating as AU because of some Apple audio group thing I can't quite remember the name of, but I don't think NI conforms to it. The abysmal performance of Reaktor 6 as AU in it probably shows it.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Fri Feb 07, 2025 3:16 am

I now have a second machine that inadvertently means I'm running MacOS 15.1.1. So I took "NI compatibility list" a bit more seriously. Native Access is not listed for Sequoia. As it happens it works like it's supposed to for the first time in half a year or more. Kontakt "6" was last compatible with OS 12, two OSes behind Reaktor. Absurd, they're actively doing bullshit to dissuade us staying with a Not Insane version. I think I can't take such a list too seriously.

I_Am_Become_KVR · Post by **I_Am_Become_KVR** » Tue Feb 25, 2025 12:43 am

Sadly, no actual competitor with Kontakts features exists. All this time later, it woulda been nice, but nope.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Tue Feb 25, 2025 3:25 am

anything else worth using is all-proprietary

I was just dealing with Sfz. I have one possible use for it, but I'd moved its samples to another drive (for one thing it won't work or install under Sequoia OS, which I did not choose to adopt but new machine forced it.) I had to uninstall and reinstall the library to establish where to have it look for samples, literally nothing in the plugin or standalone whatsoever. and Google's AI spit out detailed instructions about line item text editor changes, like a missive from a yet-worse timeline than our own currently.

CrystalWizard · Post by **CrystalWizard** » Tue Feb 25, 2025 4:35 am

Damn glad i jumped ship at v6. Also damn glad i don't have a huge collection of Kontakt sets (bummed for many that do and are stuck in v7 or v8). Only big multi-sampled thing that i would truly miss is my old Soniccoutre, everything else i could run in any sample mangler plug in (if i could get the samples out easily). Falcon seems the closest (and i didn't get on with the UI).
Kontakt, and the hardware, are all that are keeping NI afloat (it seems). I would feel like i was being blackmailed and tortured trying to use NI in it's present state.
This and the latest Reaktor thread could all be rolled up into that old "NI sux" thread.

dune_rave · Post by **dune_rave** » Tue Feb 25, 2025 5:21 am

Last BF i have bought falcon in a super discount.
Its amazing.
I will never buy any further kontakt library
(I have 5-6), rather a uvi extension.
In the newest kontakt i've seen they added some creative sequencer stuff i always missed, but its late. Falcon has super sequencers, that can drive other synths via midi out.

Examigan · Post by **Examigan** » Sat Jun 14, 2025 2:25 pm

jancivil wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:24 am
mabian wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 9:31 pm kontakt [] not able to load [] twenty-five and hybrid keys [because] no longer "kompatble" with kontakt 6. This is the hell native instruments is now.
I did that with Ethereal Earth, which I have actually used once or twice. I may want to use it in future. At the same time I also did Electric Mint, which I've not used before.

Do you know if Electric Mint works ok with Kontakt 8? I'm thinking of getting that along with Kontakt (finally).

mabian · Post by **mabian** » Sat Jun 14, 2025 2:44 pm

Examigan wrote: Sat Jun 14, 2025 2:25 pm
jancivil wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:24 am
mabian wrote: Sat Dec 21, 2024 9:31 pm kontakt [] not able to load [] twenty-five and hybrid keys [because] no longer "kompatble" with kontakt 6. This is the hell native instruments is now.
I did that with Ethereal Earth, which I have actually used once or twice. I may want to use it in future. At the same time I also did Electric Mint, which I've not used before.

Do you know if Electric Mint works ok with Kontakt 8? I'm thinking of getting that along with Kontakt (finally).

I think K8 (+Player) can load any earlier library flawlessly.
The problem is on the opposite side: if for some reason - i.e. legacy projects - you still have to use K5-6-7, and their instance use a library that has been updated through Native Access and now supports only K7 or K8 (like Ethereal Earth or Hybrid Keys), you're likely to get loading errors and risk of setting loss.
This is a hell NI invented without need (they could create new versions v3 for example that live side by side with previous versions)... maybe corner case, but still can happen.
Not nice.

- Mario

Scoops · Post by **Scoops** » Sat Jun 14, 2025 10:07 pm

Yep,

I was a NI enthusiast, all up until about 2 years ago, and I saw the ship sinking.
It is kinda painful to watch it do what it's doing, but they will not get any more of my money.

Besides, I'm finding all sorts of fun things to play with, and I see I was blinded by my NI stupidity

Leaving KONTAKT behind, experiences?