Bug reports

[Brian Collins]

The check boxes mean that you want to override higher-level settings. By default scale/tempo/signature are inherited from highest level (composition) to the lowest level (chord section). The hierarchy levels: Composition -> Parts -> Lines -> Chord sections. These can be overridden, just like you assigned a different scale to the first chord in Part 1, Line 3. Note that you typically override scale in Parts or Lines, but of course it is possible to use your own scale for the duration of a chord.

Thanks for the explanation. I hadn't deliberately set out to override the scale for that particular chord, but I can see now that that is what I did. I had assumed (wrongly) that these settings always applied to the composition, and not the currently selected structural element within it (down to the chord level). It is a lot more powerful and flexible than I expected!

The "Structure inspector" section of the manual talks about this hierarchy, but nothing mentions the use of checkboxes for overriding.

[Brian Collins]

This is just an inconsistency that might indicate an internal problem. But nothing crashes or fails.

If I attempt to drag a chord phrase vertically, it inverts as expected. But if the Phrase Inspector is open, the Transpose value displayed does not make sense. And at one point, a minor nudge that does not move the chord also changes the displayed value (between two incorrect values).

See the (silent) video:

[musicdevelopments]

Thanks for you observations!

The transpose value is always in semitones, and the phrase notes are snapped to the nearest possible position. So it may naturally happen that you move the transpose slider the notes stay the same but then they suddenly jump to the next position. Mouse dragging also sets the semitone values. If you transpose 'absolute' notes, of course they are transposed by semitones.

This works like that since version 1, it could be improved but at the moment this is not high priority.

Thanks!
Attila

[Brian Collins]

Thanks. I think I understand now. When dragging, the mouse (and phrase) move by semitones, but the notes of the phrase snap only to valid chord (or scale tones and +/- an optional chromatic interval). As the snapping occurs for each note independently (and not the phrase as a whole) there is no one number of semitones transposed across the phrase, so the number displayed cannot be anything other than the number of semitones transposed before snapping takes place. And as the snapping follows the rounded-up absolute number of semitones, then values of -1, 0, +1 all result in different inversions.

Changing the transpose effect via the slider and seeing the snapping effect on-screen makes it a bit clearer.

It's starting to make sense! And I can't really think of any improvement when a phrase could (in principle) contain a mixture of absolute, scale-relative and chord-relative notes.

[Brian Collins]

Another one. This time I can't split part 2 into lines. It failed both as VST and stand-alone.

In the video (below, silent) I dragged an existing Midi file into a default composition where I had already changed the time signature and scale to suit. The composition has 2 parts (verse, chorus) each with 4 or 5-bar lines. So I added line splits at the right places and changed the last one to a part split in the structure inspector. But then I couldn't split part 2 into its lines. Alt-click on part 2 does nothing.

[lulukom]

Unexpected bug. In Track Inspector I add Variation "Apply Melody" and the program immediately stops responding. 5.9b2. Mac OS 10.13.6.
P.S. It's the same in Phrase Inspector.

[Brian Collins]

Unexpected bug. In Track Inspector I add Variation "Apply Melody" and the program immediately stops responding. 5.9b2. Mac OS 10.13.6.
P.S. It's the same in Phrase Inspector.

Same on Windows too. I am running a debug version which has (often annoying) popup messages, but it gets stuck in a loop repeatedly displaying "LastItem used on empty array!". This might help track it down, but it is so easy to reproduce.

[Brian Collins]

Minor UI option missing.

In the phrase Inspector for both Generator and Rhythm, there is a button "Apply to selection". The Generator tab also has an "Auto-Apply" checkbox. But the Auto-Apply option also applies to rhythm changes. So I guess that "Auto-Apply" should appear on both - there is enough room.

I am trying to make sense of the Rhythm Processing panel by playing a chord sequence on loop as I change things. So I needed Auto-apply to see the effect of the various sliders and options.

[musicdevelopments]

Unexpected bug. In Track Inspector I add Variation "Apply Melody" and the program immediately stops responding. 5.9b2. Mac OS 10.13.6.
P.S. It's the same in Phrase Inspector.

Thanks, lulukom, I rebuilt v5.9b3 with the fix.

[musicdevelopments]

Same on Windows too. I am running a debug version which has (often annoying) popup messages, but it gets stuck in a loop repeatedly displaying "LastItem used on empty array!". This might help track it down, but it is so easy to reproduce.

I still cannot find an explanation for this. The array size was checked to be >0 before using LastItem(). I rewrote the piece of code that I added in v5.5.3.

Please do not use the debug version with the annoying messages. I was not able to include debug symbols in the release version, no matter what I tried. I recommend using the beta version, which I'll send you the download links for in PM. It contains the latest fixes.

Thanks,
Attila

[Jrmuzik]

Experienced a crash when creating automations for variations. Dont remember which ones but at least three different variation types.

[lulukom]

5.9.b3. Conversion into relative form of phrases and into absolute form also does not work (This only applies to key commands! Through the inspector, conversions work well) This problem has existed for quite a long time.

[Jrmuzik]

Getting crashes constantly when adding variations to percussion tracks.

Also, although percussion phrases are absolute, everytime i attempt to transpose it to match the drum vst, it jumps up and down by several steps instead of by a semitone. i easily spend 20 mins trying to lock the phrase in to match the drum vst (XO).

[Charlie Firpo]

I really enjoy Syne and wanna work with it. But i'm having so much instability and crashes with the newest version in Renoise. Here's what i did just recently which closed down Renoise without a warning and sent me back to the Win10 desktop:

1) I opened a new Syne plugin instance in Renoise instrument slot. And added a waveform in Syne.
2) I choosed "new preset" in Syne and tried the different voicing options. All seems to work except legato. When playing legato the notes cuts of to silence instead of smoothly flowing to the next note. And while experimenting with the voices options the sound suddenly got stuck on an endless sustain.
3) I finally pressed the button "create new preset!" (Below the voices option) and bo0m.. Renoise is gone.

I've also had some random crashes while messing with partials and stuff. But it's hard to reproduce. The above, i can reproduce every single time. I so wanna use Syne, cause i think it sounds great and it's very fun to come up with both harmonic & inharmonic sounds.

[musicdevelopments]

Hi Charlie,

you are right, I found that legato stopped working, and a bug which causes crashes when mono or legato was enabled.
I expect a new update will be available with bug fixes tomorrow (Friday).
Many thanks for reporting these issues!

Attila