Software vs. Analog in 2025 – Has the Balance Shifted?

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Has digital finally dethroned analog?

Yes, software has clearly taken the lead
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31%
No, analog still holds its ground
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24%
About 50/50 - I balance both worlds
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6%
Not sure, it's context-dependent
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1%
Doesn’t matter. It’s about results, not tools
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37%
 
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zerocrossing wrote: Wed Jul 02, 2025 10:08 pm Which reminds me. I bought a Dreadbox Hypnosis and after a few weeks with it, I found it to be worse in every way to using Colour Copy x2 and Twangström. I just didn't like the tone, and I found it too noisy. YMMV.
The Hypnosis definitely seems to have its own flavour. If you liked that flavour on the sources you were using, you might have lived with a bit of noise.

No doubt the software is more flexible.

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zerocrossing wrote: Wed Jul 02, 2025 10:13 pm Here's an example of a bonkers plugin that no hardware maker would likely make... maybe in Eurorack
Yeah, Eurorack is where hardware matches software for the wide range of "hey what if we did this" ideas implemented :)

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pdxindy wrote: Thu Jul 03, 2025 2:55 pm
zerocrossing wrote: Wed Jul 02, 2025 10:13 pm Here's an example of a bonkers plugin that no hardware maker would likely make... maybe in Eurorack
Yeah, Eurorack is where hardware matches software for the wide range of "hey what if we did this" ideas implemented :)
I’d love for a developer to make a new standard of modular. No cables. A rack system that would plug into a central brain that came in various sizes. All mod connections would be made and stored in the brain via a mod matrix, everything done at very high refresh rates. Touch a button, then touch a source control, then a destination and adjust to taste, sort of how the Prophet 12 works, including being able to modulate modulation amounts in the matrix.
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zerocrossing wrote: Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:15 pm
pdxindy wrote: Thu Jul 03, 2025 2:55 pm
zerocrossing wrote: Wed Jul 02, 2025 10:13 pm Here's an example of a bonkers plugin that no hardware maker would likely make... maybe in Eurorack
Yeah, Eurorack is where hardware matches software for the wide range of "hey what if we did this" ideas implemented :)
I’d love for a developer to make a new standard of modular. No cables. A rack system that would plug into a central brain that came in various sizes. All mod connections would be made and stored in the brain via a mod matrix, everything done at very high refresh rates. Touch a button, then touch a source control, then a destination and adjust to taste, sort of how the Prophet 12 works, including being able to modulate modulation amounts in the matrix.
We just went through a long phase in which plugin developers brought all sorts of brainchilds into the world that could do all sorts of things. Today, it's not uncommon for people to voluntarily pay €2,000 for a Juno 6, even though the Juno's capabilities are so limited. This reminds me a lot of the KISS principle.

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HAL76 wrote: Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:20 pm
zerocrossing wrote: Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:15 pm
pdxindy wrote: Thu Jul 03, 2025 2:55 pm
zerocrossing wrote: Wed Jul 02, 2025 10:13 pm Here's an example of a bonkers plugin that no hardware maker would likely make... maybe in Eurorack
Yeah, Eurorack is where hardware matches software for the wide range of "hey what if we did this" ideas implemented :)
I’d love for a developer to make a new standard of modular. No cables. A rack system that would plug into a central brain that came in various sizes. All mod connections would be made and stored in the brain via a mod matrix, everything done at very high refresh rates. Touch a button, then touch a source control, then a destination and adjust to taste, sort of how the Prophet 12 works, including being able to modulate modulation amounts in the matrix.
We just went through a long phase in which plugin developers brought all sorts of brainchilds into the world that could do all sorts of things. Today, it's not uncommon for people to voluntarily pay €2,000 for a Juno 6, even though the Juno's capabilities are so limited. This reminds me a lot of the KISS principle.
I would agree that a juno 6 is limited, but so is a violin. The 1715 'Baron Knoop' violin by Antonio Stradivari sold for $23 million in March 2025.

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They still cannot properly replicate Stradivari’s work to this day.

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pekbro wrote: Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:54 pm They still cannot properly replicate Stradivari’s work to this day.
Pfff, more oversampling... :hihi:
ABX is enemy to GAS

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pekbro wrote: Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:54 pm They still cannot properly replicate Stradivari’s work to this day.
Yes, true, they have been trying for a long time. Some are quite good. A copy made by Giuseppe Antonio Rocca in 1834 fetched $412,624 in 2018.

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dellboy wrote: Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:34 pm The 1715 'Baron Knoop' violin by Antonio Stradivari sold for $23 million in March 2025.
I'm waiting for the Behringer Clone

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HAL76 wrote: Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:20 pm We just went through a long phase in which plugin developers brought all sorts of brainchilds into the world that could do all sorts of things. Today, it's not uncommon for people to voluntarily pay €2,000 for a Juno 6, even though the Juno's capabilities are so limited. This reminds me a lot of the KISS principle.
One of most interesting things with software synths that follow a subtractive synthesis methodology is that pretty much all of them can be turned into a Juno 6 rather easily, made even more fun by the different flavors of filters, and chorus that most of them have

Brings the KISS principle down to a whole nother level

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dellboy wrote: Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:34 pm
HAL76 wrote: Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:20 pm
zerocrossing wrote: Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:15 pm
pdxindy wrote: Thu Jul 03, 2025 2:55 pm
zerocrossing wrote: Wed Jul 02, 2025 10:13 pm Here's an example of a bonkers plugin that no hardware maker would likely make... maybe in Eurorack
Yeah, Eurorack is where hardware matches software for the wide range of "hey what if we did this" ideas implemented :)
I’d love for a developer to make a new standard of modular. No cables. A rack system that would plug into a central brain that came in various sizes. All mod connections would be made and stored in the brain via a mod matrix, everything done at very high refresh rates. Touch a button, then touch a source control, then a destination and adjust to taste, sort of how the Prophet 12 works, including being able to modulate modulation amounts in the matrix.
We just went through a long phase in which plugin developers brought all sorts of brainchilds into the world that could do all sorts of things. Today, it's not uncommon for people to voluntarily pay €2,000 for a Juno 6, even though the Juno's capabilities are so limited. This reminds me a lot of the KISS principle.
I would agree that a juno 6 is limited, but so is a violin. The 1715 'Baron Knoop' violin by Antonio Stradivari sold for $23 million in March 2025.
Yeah, but it has MPE. :lol:
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pekbro wrote: Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:54 pm They still cannot properly replicate Stradivari’s work to this day.
carlos came close on the switched on series of albums

;)
:ud:

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pekbro wrote: Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:54 pm They still cannot properly replicate Stradivari’s work to this day.
A bit of wood and 4 strings, can't be that difficult.

Hold my beer...
How original

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seafire wrote: Thu Jul 03, 2025 7:49 pm
pekbro wrote: Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:54 pm They still cannot properly replicate Stradivari’s work to this day.
A bit of wood and 4 strings, can't be that difficult.

Hold my beer...
thats how we got the bass, some ham fisted chippy, tried to knock up a viola, and voila, the bass was born!
:ud:

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vurt wrote: Thu Jul 03, 2025 7:51 pm
seafire wrote: Thu Jul 03, 2025 7:49 pm
pekbro wrote: Thu Jul 03, 2025 6:54 pm They still cannot properly replicate Stradivari’s work to this day.
A bit of wood and 4 strings, can't be that difficult.

Hold my beer...
thats how we got the bass, some ham fisted chippy, tried to knock up a viola, and voila, the bass was born!
And lo, funk was born
How original

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