Ohm Force’s Ohmicide[S] has been released! 😍

[elxsound]

I never had much trouble with infinity, even the early versions. I think I’m one of the few old timers who didn’t own ohmicide.

How did that happen! I thought it was a rite of passage on KVR!

Thanks for making the request about the reset password link. I suppose I need to try it again.

I’m probably still not buying, but could be interested in the euro rack module someday.

Yea, I was thinking they should do a bundle of the module and plugin maybe.

I would be interested in that.

[Echoes in the Attic]

Looks really great though though as an Ohmicide owner I was probably expecting an upgrade price abuot half what I'm offered. Will have to think about it or wait for a sale. No intro price?

[kraster]

A few things I'd like to see.

A sidechain for the Envelope follower.

Triggering of the ADSR by midi note (or by the step sequencer)

[dayjob]

A few things I'd like to see.

A sidechain for the Envelope follower.

Triggering of the ADSR by midi note (or by the step sequencer)

Good ideas. Both those would be welcome fun. It’s already quite modular so those additions would put it way over the top.

[idoru97214]

Its ok sounding, personally the JMG Cyberdrive is better and way cheaper.

This statement surprises me.

[pekbro]

I didn’t even buy that for $9 or whatever. Though I thought it ok, just all the same
stuff from melda, which I got already and
don’t really use.

[hey212]

It sounds awesome, but the knob control is unbelievably annoying. They seem to be vertically draggable, as they should be, but they barely respond, and the speed of the rotation seems to randomly change. It's really pissing in my Cheerios.

This is an issue some people have and we're on it. As usual the first wave of buyers reveal issues that were invisible during testing.

That's awesome, glad to hear you're working on it. I now know what the issue is. The speed you drag the cursor has a huge impact on how far the knob rotates, which makes it very hard to control. So for example, if you drag your finger 2 inches across a trackpad very slowly, the knob will have done almost nothing, but if you do a quick swipe for the exact same 2 inch distance, the knob will move a lot. So basically to get the knob to respond meaningfully you have to move your hand quickly, which obviously makes it very hard to do anything accurately. Most people move their hand slowly when controlling a plugin, and when you do that, it feels broken because the knob barely moves.

Long story short, if you drag a 2 inch distance slowly, the knob should rotate the exact same amount as if you drag a 2 inch distance quickly. The wonky artificial physics being applied are ruining it.

[dayjob]

anyone curious, try the demo and spend some time w/it. it sounds great.. sounds like ohmicide + more. i'm enjoying using it. sound design beast. so many timbres. so much modulation. there's a lot of distortion type plug ins out there that do interesting things but none of them is ohmicide. unique sounding processor.. this is why it was so popular for so long. the feedback alone is gold. if you have old ohimicide then you know all this already.

but don't take my word for it. try the demo..

[machinesworking]

Sorry you feel that way.
I am not sure what you mean by "giving none" though. What is it that you feel we should have done that we didn't?

I'm not trying to dog on you or your company, but seriously? you all but disappeared for years. You went from updates for any odd issue with the plugins to zero support for a very very long time.

We offered the legacy versions for everyone

As someone who already owned all your products that did nothing for your most loyal customers. Nice gesture for sure, but I dreaded this outcome, that you wouldn't take it into consideration when you updated the line up one by one. 15% off is a typical intro price, and no, I don't think you should be rewarded for abandoning the old line up and revamping them years later.

, refunded everyone who has had a bad experience with their purchase of ohmboyz∞ early access, released a free plugin for everyone, and spend in general 6+ years doing all of those things, new framework for plugins, redesigning them, patches, updated website etc.

I'm glad you guys went back to work, and honestly I'm glad you haven't abandoned your line up or went out of business. The near zero lack of consideration for customers who bought into your ecosystem is frustrating though. You seem to completely miss that it's really not fun to use plugins that aren't being updated for modern OS's, I stopped using Ohm Force plugins years ago when it looked like you guys were off coding in a different industry, because the only thing worse than a depreciated plugin that stops working is one you're currently using that bricks on an OS security update etc.

[audiosabre]

The All Plugins bundle was one of my first VST purchases ever. I recall that Ohm Force were one of the only devs that offered a student discount at that time.

Gotta admit, I’m not crazy about the upgrade pricing, though the bundle of & the new Ohmicide is a little less outrageous.

That being said, I will give it a fair shake and try the demo for a few weeks.

I do believe using Venus Theory for the intro was a missed opportunity. There are so many artists with aggressive music that could have showcased it better imo. I am a Venus Theory subscriber, but I just think it was the wrong fit for Ohmicide. Despite him creating high quality productions. Just a marketing thought…

[Aloysius]

€79,00 EUR. No thank you.

[Greenstorm33]

Well, for this one I’ve gotta say that Ohm Force has really earned…
…an email sub from me so they can tell me when it’s available for a reasonable price. Maybe that was the plan all along?

It is how this market has evolved, yes. Crazy sales on a regular basis. Some customer prioritise time, some other money. When it comes to video games I certainly am in the second group so I get the idea^^.

To be clear I'm not asking for bargain-bin prices, just...not $95 for a single plugin upgrade. At $50 or even $60 as an intro offer I'd have been in immediately. Also I'll note that I got Ohmicide for $30 in 2013 so you all were in the Crazy Sales bracket even before Waves et al. had fully pulled the rug out from under the market

[Red_Force]

You know what, your candour here is really admirable and appreciated.

Those were incredibly kind words that really made me happy.
"We only bitch about things we care for" is a thing I try to keep in mind. It's easy because when I am a user myself I have sometimes been sassy to tool developers in other fields (paint apps if you wonder). I'll try to be better next time in your honor (although I do think it's fair for user to have expectations and it's part of the job to address them.)

Mainly I am happy because you enjoy the plugin ^^

Even if there is just the ability to switch between 12 different presets, using MIDI notes, that would be welcome to me. It was a critical feature, for the way I used Ohmicide.

Just switching? with no morph?

Why is my old Ohmicide license marked as NFR? It wasn’t a license transfer, I bought it outright. Not letting me qualify for the upgrade

You're not the only one. What we suspect is that sometimes in the past some support action came to giving you a license which by default is marked as NFR unless the one of us doing it made a mistake. I am also sorry to say that I've seen you for long enough here to vouch for you ^^
But that's not needed, just contact us via support with your account email and we'll fix it (if you already did I am going there next)

But it wasn't fixed with the update and shortly after, you announced that you would stop developing plugins.

Hmm this isn't exactly what happened AFAICR.
First I don't think we said we would stop developing plugin. In fact we kept selling Ohmicide until 2019. Did you contact us for support back then? Your issue was not something other users had.
It's true that the situation was unusual and complicated back then and that we removed the mac version from the shop for a few months. But we certainly never said we would stop plugin because ohmboyz∞ first drafts were in 2015.

I absolutely HAVE to know I can rely on bugs being fixed, new systems being supported and sessions being able to recall in 10 years from now.

10 years is easy. Last year I digged back an RTAS installer for a past customer that was 20 years old.
Look, plenty of people are currently using the same Ohmicide you purchased - including a lot who downloaded it for free in 2025 on our website, and also many who bought it 15 years ago. I don't doubt your issue was real and should have been treated in support, and from your description I suspect it was a support issuer rather than a patch (bc isolated cases typically are and I don't recall anything like what you describe filling my inbox back then).
Two years ago people were explaining to us that they needed us to develop Silicon to prove we weren't dying on them. We did. So I appreciate the concern, and no doubt there are companies that can inspire more confidence in their lasting power, but we've been in this biz for more than 25 years now... it has to count for something surely?

Yea, I was thinking they should do a bundle of the module and plugin maybe.

We were wondering about that. Unclear to us that it would interest a lot of people but maybe we were wrong on that? Anyway reporting your suggestion to the team.

A few things I'd like to see.

A sidechain for the Envelope follower.

Triggering of the ADSR by midi note (or by the step sequencer)

Noted. Sidechain (and btw multiple outputs) were considered but they would require significant investment on our end. ADSR idea is possibly easier, will have to discuss it with Green.

and no, I don't think you should be rewarded for abandoning the old line up and revamping them years later.

Those are all fair criticism.

The near zero lack of consideration for customers who bought into your ecosystem is frustrating though.

If we all were always able to do the thing we want in life you'd have a point here too. We did what we had to back then.

because the only thing worse than a depreciated plugin that stops working is one you're currently using that bricks on an OS security update etc.

Ok one minute here though. You say "modern OS" but I understand that what you really mean is "macOS".Because windows 11 absolutely does run the original ohmboyz just like windows 2000 was. You have every right to prefer a platform that values pushing new standards over retro compatibility but it's not true that it is "a requirement of every modern OS".

Also in fairness - even by that standard Ohmicide had already been selling, and had been supported for ~10 years at the time at zero update costs. Maybe that was our mistake - sure being unable to pay for the new requirement drop from Apple with sales costed a new updates.

All that being said I did suffer a lot in the era from the situation you're describing precisely because I want those plugins to last even more than you and it took us an agonizingly long time to be able to put them back on the map.

I do believe using Venus Theory for the intro was a missed opportunity. There are so many artists with aggressive music that could have showcased it better imo. I am a Venus Theory subscriber, but I just think it was the wrong fit for Ohmicide. Despite him creating high quality productions. Just a marketing thought…

Appreciate the feedback. It certainly was a blast working with him, he's extremely professional (and this isn't a polite way to say he wasn't nice. He was nice too. But God was he professional). We wanted someone actually explaining the plugin and we feel he has done an awesome job with that. And he makes the best pictures. We really wanted nice pictures of the plugin in a studio.
But this isn't to say we're not interested in other collaboration in the future. What names did you have in mind?

To be clear I'm not asking for bargain-bin prices, just...not $95 for a single plugin upgrade. At $50 or even $60 as an intro offer I'd have been in immediately. Also I'll note that I got Ohmicide for $30 in 2013 so you all were in the Crazy Sales bracket even before Waves et al. had fully pulled the rug out from under the market

I don't think we ever discounted Ohmicide over 50% and especially not as early as 2013, although maybe on a completion offers. Some third parties resellers going crazy of contract maybe?
We definitely understand that a lot of people needs those sales to be able to purchase the plugin and we're not forgetting them. Would suggest to make sure you're subscribed to our newsletter or social networks were we announce those.

[Greenstorm33]

"We only bitch about things we care for" is a thing I try to keep in mind.

I wouldn't be griping about the price if it weren't a great plugin, and the new additions look really nice. I'm resisting the urge to take the new version for a spin because I'm trying to spend less and if I do that I might get it without waiting for a sale anyways

[machinesworking]

It's not the price, it's the ratio. Nobody expects anyone but U-He to give $25 upgrades. [and he doesn't do them every year, or even 5 years apparently] Most upgrades are 40-65% of the price of new. I'm looking at an application that costs $500 new and the upgrade is $180, I haven't even thought about complaining about it because it's a reasonable discount for owning the previous version. Oh and then there's Altiverb 8, a $500 plugin that had an $80 upgrade price, regular free updates previously etc.

I'm sure there's all kinds of rational about why Ohm force decided to give such a poor discount to existing users, but it just falls flat in terms of what it says to us as customers. We hold no value, period. I'm going off about it because flatly it's one of the worst parts of the plugin industry, upgrades being used to ensure revenue makes sense, but not taking into account that someone already paid your bills once is just wrong. This goes down as literally the shittiest discount I've ever seen any company offer existing users, in an industry with some extremes in terms of company management styles that says a lot.