Ohm Force’s Ohmicide[S] has been released! 😍

[RPH]

Definitely going to buy it, especially after the upgrade pricing bs here.

[jens]

You have every right to prefer a platform that values pushing new standards over retro compatibility but it's not true that it is "a requirement of every modern OS".

This should be tattooed on the forehead of each and every Mac user.

[kraster]

It's not the price, it's the ratio. Nobody expects anyone but U-He to give $25 upgrades. [and he doesn't do them every year, or even 5 years apparently] Most upgrades are 40-65% of the price of new. I'm looking at an application that costs $500 new and the upgrade is $180, I haven't even thought about complaining about it because it's a reasonable discount for owning the previous version. Oh and then there's Altiverb 8, a $500 plugin that had an $80 upgrade price, regular free updates previously etc.

I'm sure there's all kinds of rational about why Ohm force decided to give such a poor discount to existing users, but it just falls flat in terms of what it says to us as customers. We hold no value, period. I'm going off about it because flatly it's one of the worst parts of the plugin industry, upgrades being used to ensure revenue makes sense, but not taking into account that someone already paid your bills once is just wrong. This goes down as literally the shittiest discount I've ever seen any company offer existing users, in an industry with some extremes in terms of company management styles that says a lot.

well said!
we'll see if Ohmforce will be succesful with it and people will still support this bad upgrade move cause they cannot wait/need always the newest stuff. payinga about 80% of the price as upgrade is just ......
let your wallets speak.

Totally well said. I don't get a good feeling about a company that has been all but MIA for 10 years and now slowly roll back into production with little more than expectations of top dollar for product upgrades. If it's more of the same absence I not keen at all.

Again, nothing about this situation justifies an exorbitant upgrade price, and of course besides a few people like you being supportive of taking a position on this, we get the developer immediately defaulting to platform wars to deflect from the fact that plenty of companies have not used Mac OS as an excuse for gouging people on upgrade pricing, and some rando not paying any attention at all to what is being discussed to have his little fit.

I think if you think about it as more or less a new plugin it makes more sense. Which it is.

Pro Q 4 upgrade from 3 was 83 dollars (if you didn't own any other FF plugins) and I'd say that while I think Pro Q 4 is a great upgrade I think Ohmicide S is far more significant and fundamental.

As I said above, I could spend my time whining about the price of something I bought 17 years ago not being as cheap as I like but life's too short.

The only thing that should really concern you is not perceived personal slights (it's not personal) but whether the plugin is worth it for the price. Imho, I think it is.

[enCiphered]

Man, this guy in the video talks way too much before actually showing how the plugin sounds. Just give us some audio demos already! Feels like a podcast instead of a demo..

[biomechanoid]

You have every right to prefer a platform that values pushing new standards over retro compatibility but it's not true that it is "a requirement of every modern OS".

This should be tattooed on the forehead of each and every Mac user.

Do we get to suggest what should be tattooed on your forehead?

[dhruan]

Man, this guy in the video talks way too much before actually showing how the plugin sounds. Just give us some audio demos already! Feels like a podcast instead of a demo..

Posted this earlier, here you go:

[dhruan]

You have every right to prefer a platform that values pushing new standards over retro compatibility but it's not true that it is "a requirement of every modern OS".

This should be tattooed on the forehead of each and every Mac user.

Do we get to suggest what should be tattooed on your forehead?

[Offtopic] Do we have to take everything personally? As a Mac-only fella since 2008 or so (aside from work), I wasn't offended by that in the least (actually, I found it rather funny). [/Offtopic]

But hey, what is new? Just got an email from Ohm Force: Crossgrades and a bundle are now available!

I might actually pull the trigger on Ohmboyz Infinity just in order to show my support (not that I would have any real need for new plugins, as if they would make my sonic explorations any better... ). Might make things more fun though

[biomechanoid]

[Offtopic] Do we have to take everything personally? As a Mac-only fella since 2008 or so (aside from work), I wasn't offended by that in the least (actually, I found it rather funny). [/Offtopic]

[jens]

You have every right to prefer a platform that values pushing new standards over retro compatibility but it's not true that it is "a requirement of every modern OS".

This should be tattooed on the forehead of each and every Mac user.

Do we get to suggest what should be tattooed on your forehead?

No you don't.

So I take it you're a Mac user too?

[Dirtgrain]

[Offtopic] Do we have to take everything personally? As a Mac-only fella since 2008 or so (aside from work), I wasn't offended by that in the least (actually, I found it rather funny). [/Offtopic]

[dhruan]

[Offtopic] Do we have to take everything personally? As a Mac-only fella since 2008 or so (aside from work), I wasn't offended by that in the least (actually, I found it rather funny). [/Offtopic]

Oh lawd, thank you! I *love* The Young Ones and very much appreciated the laugh… and yes, of the main characters of that show I find the most affinity with… Rick

[UltimiGiorniRecords]

Old gold. Purchased. Happy with the upgrade.

[abstractdolphin]

@red_force Does this use the same algorithms that were in the original? From the demo video above it sounds quite a bit like it (wild and crazy). Does it also have the same sort of feedback options (I don't see them in the video).

[cryophonik]

I was on the fence with the $95 upgrade simply because, even though I own all of their older plugins (except Infinity), I really don’t need another distortion. But then I noticed the $131 price for OhmicideS+Infinity, started watching and listening to demos of both, and now I think I’m sold. $65 each? Yeah, that’s close enough to no-brainer for me.

[zerocrossing]

I was on the fence with the $95 upgrade simply because, even though I own all of their older plugins (except Infinity), I really don’t need another distortion. But then I noticed the $131 price for OhmicideS+Infinity, started watching and listening to demos of both, and now I think I’m sold. $65 each? Yeah, that’s close enough to no-brainer for me.

Yeah, as a software developer, I have empathy for them, even though they did go on quite a long hiatus. In my head, they were lost in a French opium den doing sketches of cats in space. I hope they had fun. I did notice when I looked for an email about Ohmicide[S.] that I got an email from them in... 2021 maybe... something about a Eurorack module, so I ignored it, but maybe they were trying to break into that world. I imagine that's a very competitive and saturated market, as I dipped my toe in it and I was overwhelmed at the choice for every little thing.

But I do games, and there's no such thing as an upgrade price from v1 to v2. Expansion packs are common, but when you develop a totally new version of the game, you never give a discount. So, $65? Yeah, that's about what you'd pay for a new game, maybe a bit less. Seems fair.

[edit] Had to add a space in so it wouldn't strike-through all my text.