GForce Halogen FM - 2 Operator Pair FM Synth

[Uncle E]

Yep, that was NOT what I said, but you tend to do this often.

You're back on my block list

It's called a Foe List.

Just kidding! Don't block me, bro, don't block me! OW! OOOWWWWW!!!!

[crimsonwarlock]

It's called a Foe List.

Just kidding! Don't block me, bro, don't block me! OW! OOOWWWWW!!!!

Yep, blocking foes

You're one of the old garde here, though, you're safe

[MrJubbly]

No point in arguing about it when OP clearly isn't going to change the thread title.

I did yesterday.From 2OP to 2 Operator Pair

Yes, but why didn't you also correct the actual name of the plugin in the topic title?

It is after all named "Halogen FM" not "Halogen 2 Operator Pair FM Synth"

It's almost like you are belligerently trying to obfuscate the plugin's name.

For e.g. say, somebody wants to do an advanced search of the Instruments forum using the plugin's correct name "Halogen FM" using "Topic titles only" option ... Guess what? This topic is not found. "No suitable matches were found."

Imagine if everybody on the forum did the same. Instead of a simple topic title like:
"FabFilter Pro-Q 4 released"

we would instead have something like:
"FabFilter Spectral Dynamics with Instance Lists Pro-Q version 4"

[IvyBirds]

Awesome so you agree with me then that the Synclavier has operators and your entire point was incorrect thanks for the admission

Yep, that was NOT what I said, but you tend to do this often.

You're back on my block list

My bad, but then what you said makes no sense even on the original 1970s Synclavier and 1980s Synclavier II both operators had exactly the same tone generators which were additive. The carrier used the same one as the modulator, you can see this in the patent if you look. The operator on the modulator was using additive synthesis and only using the 1st Harmonic which produces a sine wave on the fundamental frequency it's set for

That's the way it works, they are both exactly the same it's not using a look up table for the sine wave like the DX7 does

Modern versions of the Synclavier have the ability to generate more sine waves on not just the fundamental but on the next 23 coefficients of the fundamental

Why you decided to make this argument about an unrelated plugin is beside me, but to say the Synclavier doesn't have operators, and then to double down and say that they are different is factually incorrect

[Rabid]

I've been a fan of GForce for a long time. Since the original Imposcar. After buying the very disappointing Icondrum I have become cautious. The sound of this reminds me of early FM synths that were offered at KVR 15 years ago. The pretty interface and excessive reverb does nothing for the raw sound. What is new is their release of a VST that crashes on my Mac. GForce is usually much better at finding problems before release. I will admit the release discount makes it a good price, but without good sound and stability it is not a good value.

[vitocorleone123]

I've been a fan of GForce for a long time. Since the original Imposcar. After buying the very disappointing Icondrum I have become cautious. The sound of this reminds me of early FM synths that were offered at KVR 15 years ago. The pretty interface and excessive reverb does nothing for the raw sound. What is new is their release of a VST that crashes on my Mac. GForce is usually much better at finding problems before release. I will admit the release discount makes it a good price, but without good sound and stability it is not a good value.

Sounds good, is easy and fun to use, and has been totally stable on my PC. Definitely worth the $34.

[ghostwhistler]

I dont see how to modulate parameters using the mod wheel. It seems to have very limited modulation options.

Also where is the cross mod button?

[waxdoctor]

Also where is the cross mod button?

to the left of [OPR2] on the UI

[waxdoctor]

Also where is the cross mod button?

to the left of [OPR2] on the UI

[vitocorleone123]

I’ll circle back to this at some point. It was fun to mess around and tweak stuff. I don’t understand why developers still release synths where you can’t lock the fx mix knob.

It got outclassed when I snagged a new Digitone 2 for $50 off list price from Perfect Circuit. Bargains are hard to come by.

[Artie Fichelle]

A total useless synth. Meaning,if you want FM, get a better one.

[starflakeprj]

I’ll circle back to this at some point. It was fun to mess around and tweak stuff. I don’t understand why developers still release synths where you can’t lock the fx mix knob.

It got outclassed when I snagged a new Digitone 2 for $50 off list price from Perfect Circuit. Bargains are hard to come by.

Are you comparing Halogen FM with an $1100 more expensive HW synth?

[IvyBirds]

I’ll circle back to this at some point. It was fun to mess around and tweak stuff. I don’t understand why developers still release synths where you can’t lock the fx mix knob.

It got outclassed when I snagged a new Digitone 2 for $50 off list price from Perfect Circuit. Bargains are hard to come by.

And if you actually want to do real FM without the training wheels and deliberately crippled FM programming of the Digitone II return it immediately and get a copy of OPS7 or HALion7/FM Lab

Doing so will immediately outclass anything sonically you can do with Digitone.

[foosnark]

A total useless synth. Meaning,if you want FM, get a better one.

A totally useless post. If you want FM, get whatever you like.

[IvyBirds]

A total useless synth. Meaning,if you want FM, get a better one.

A totally useless post. If you want FM, get whatever you like.

Sure but then don't go back into a thread about a £33.00 plugin and crap on it because you purchased an expensive hardware synth that offered more features which it should because it costs over 30x more

That just screams of elitism