RapidComposer v5 beta feedback and discussion

[Brian Collins]

Because of the many chord options, right-clicking cannot show everything, all the possibilities does not fit in the master track inspector. That is why a (toggleable) floating chord menu was introduced many years ago for a simple left-click. I am not able to solve this better UI-wise.
If I fix clicking on multiple selected chords, it will work more logically.

Thanks, I understand you can't squeeze too much function into a limited number of UI actions. My concern is that the useful stuff is discoverable - I would not necessarily have thought of Shift-left-click.

What you are proposing is definitely more logical.

[musicdevelopments]

But the Add Interval of a third, gave me a second - not pleasant!

Thanks Brian and lulukom for reporting this! indeed, when added to a track, "Add Interval" adds semitones. This bug was introduced in this beta version but now I know how to do this the right way.

Thanks!
Attila

[musicdevelopments]

Thanks, I understand you can't squeeze too much function into a limited number of UI actions. My concern is that the useful stuff is discoverable - I would not necessarily have thought of Shift-left-click.

I'll make sure this works better if you use Ctrl-click for selection.
Thanks for the feedback!
Attila

[BluGenes]

Also, any text edit fields needs to be able to be cleared, as an example, the AI API key.

[Brian Collins]

What should the "Add Chord Notes" variation do? When I try it on a track, it does nothing at all. When I try it on a phrase, the "above" settings do something (but I can't understand what) and the "below" settings do nothing.

I thought (from the name) that it might add tracking harmony based on the chord rather than the scale interval (although Add Interval is currently broken). But I can't work out what it it is meant to do.

[BluGenes]

What should the "Add Chord Notes" variation do? When I try it on a track, it does nothing at all. When I try it on a phrase, the "above" settings do something (but I can't understand what) and the "below" settings do nothing.

I thought (from the name) that it might add tracking harmony based on the chord rather than the scale interval (although Add Interval is currently broken). But I can't work out what it it is meant to do.

Move the slider to see the effects.

[Brian Collins]

Move the slider to see the effects.

Here are two videos, one using a track variation and the other a phrase variation.





In both cases, the slider does nothing. For the track variation, nothing happens at all. For the phrase variation, the behaviour is different for "above" and "below". For "below", only chord notes are moved (the the next chord note below). For "above", only non-chord notes are moved (to the nearest chord note above).

All-in-all, I cannot see what it should be doing. It feels broken to me.

[BluGenes]

Ok, Google must have changed policy or something, I can't view the videos from here. but, looking at the thumbnail of the first video, notice that you have a make monophonic variation on the track. Adding chord tones makes the phrase poly phonic. It's possible they are canceling each other out.

But, for tracks, I also couldn't get it to work.

Not sure what you are doing wrong for the phrase though, without seeing the video.

It works for me with phrases, but, fails with tracks.

[Brian Collins]

Ok, Google must have changed policy or something, I can't view the videos from here. but, looking at the thumbnail of the first video, notice that you have a make monophonic variation on the track. Adding chord tones makes the phrase poly phonic. It's possible they are canceling each other out.

But, for tracks, I also couldn't get it to work.

Not sure what you are doing wrong for the phrase though, without seeing the video.

It works for me with phrases, but, fails with tracks.

I've double-checked the video links and they are definitely "Unlisted", not "Private". So they should play. I have not had this sort of problem with phpBB, though policies and permissions do keep changing!

Unfortunately I can't add a "normal" YT link without phpBB being "clever" and changing it to the embedded link instead.

I do have Make Monophonic, as this is the only way to remove my legato overlaps before trying to add harmony. And there was a bug in the ordering of track variations that is supposed to have been explicitly fixed in the latest beta - it was certainly fixed for Add Interval, although that is now broken is a different way (adding the wrong interval).

Just to be 100% clear, I am on 5.9b4, built on July 19.

[BluGenes]

Ok, my apologies, I was able to play the video. I see it working when you toggle the variation on and off for the phrase. You see the phrase change position a bit. The polyphony slider adds more notes. You use that variation to add notes to a chord. When you add this variation to a melody, the melody becomes a chord, technically, when two or more notes are stacked.

Again, I see it working in your video. Also, just to be clear, the note that is being changed is a note in the chord, so, if the note is not in the chord, it won't be changed or a note added to that.

This variation doesn't work at the track level, so, maybe should be removed from the track variation list..

[Brian Collins]

Ok, my apologies, I was able to play the video. I see it working when you toggle the variation on and off for the phrase. You see the phrase change position a bit. The polyphony slider adds more notes. You use that variation to add notes to a chord. When you add this variation to a melody, the melody becomes a chord, technically, when two or more notes are stacked.

Again, I see it working in your video. Also, just to be clear, the note that is being changed is a note in the chord, so, if the note is not in the chord, it won't be changed or a note added to that.

This variation doesn't work at the track level, so, maybe should be removed from the track variation list..

Thanks ... but ...

• The behaviour of adding above is very different from adding below. One affects just the chord notes, and the other only the non-chord notes

• The slider does nothing at all to influence the number of notes added

[BluGenes]

To completely verify the problem, try it with different phrases and generators.. If it still does it, then, there ya go.

[Brian Collins]

NEW FATAL PROBLEM.

I have a totally (and simply) reproducible problem which hangs RC such that all I can do is kill Studio One.

See the video:

[BluGenes]

Can you list the steps you take to cause the crash? (In addition to the video) so it's documented...

[Brian Collins]

Can you list the steps you take to cause the crash? (In addition to the video) so it's documented...

• Start with a default new composition (4 bars)

• Lengthen it to 8 bars

• Split the chords at bar boundaries (in my case not in order), which will leave a chord selected

• In the heading, change the "C major" to "C minor", accidentally (on purpose) changing for the selected chord, not the whole composition

• Oops - change the "C minor" chord back to "C major" (not undo)

• At the top (composition) level, in the heading, change the "C major" to "C minor". But that does not change the chord previously changed

• Try to change that chord's scale - RC locks up