KVR Audio

clintmartin · Post by **clintmartin** » Mon Jul 21, 2025 11:26 pm

Seems that Logic broke ARA. If you were just switching to Mac which daw would you recommend that has excellent ARA implementation?

simmo75 · Post by **simmo75** » Mon Jul 21, 2025 11:58 pm

Get Reaper! S1 is awful on mac, in my experience.

qtheerearranger · Post by **qtheerearranger** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 12:00 am

Cubase and s1 are both great with ara.

Cubase has way more warping algorithms and has a built in pitch editor (like logic does) except this one is actually good and you will reach for it at different times then you will reach for melodyne. Studio one has some basic warping algorithms and doesn’t come with anything special.

Pitch shifting sounds way better in cubase and it even has some old algorithms for when you want it to sound bad like s1s (sometimes that pitched up bad warp sounds fire)

However, even as a cubase user - I have to say s1 is a lot more intuitive especially for workflow. Cubase is rock solid while the latest s1 update I still get hang crashes when using the browser randomly so kinda side tangent on stability.

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 12:10 am

I’m primarily a Logic user, and my go-to for ARA (primarily when tracking vocals) is Pro Tools. I’ve also owned Studio One since the day it was released and, while ARA worked fine on it when I used to use it (mostly for collabs), I just don’t like that DAW and would probably sell it if I could get more than five bucks for it.

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 12:59 am

Yes, Studio One is the best for ARA. PreSonus developed ARA in collaboration with Celemony.

harddaysnight · Post by **harddaysnight** » Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:06 am

I own most DAWs, use a Mac, and think S1 is the best option for people that want ARA support.

It's funny how far ARA support leaves other DAWs behind - Logic feels so old, so sluggish, so unusable to me now, and part of that is because of no ARA support.. or having to use Rosetta etc.. no thanks.

S1's great.

kidslow · Post by **kidslow** » Sat Aug 23, 2025 5:04 pm

harddaysnight wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:06 am I own most DAWs, use a Mac, and think S1 is the best option for people that want ARA support.

It's funny how far ARA support leaves other DAWs behind - Logic feels so old, so sluggish, so unusable to me now, and part of that is because of no ARA support.. or having to use Rosetta etc.. no thanks.

S1's great.

What is it about ARA in particular that evokes this feeling? I get workflow, but what ARA-supported plugins are you using and in what manner, that you describe returning to the alternative without them as "unusable"?

sQeetz · Post by **sQeetz** » Sat Aug 23, 2025 8:12 pm

cryophonik wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 12:10 am I just don’t like that DAW and would probably sell it if I could get more than five bucks for it.

truer words have never been spoken.
The only thing I do with it is keeping it updated, maintaining the plugin list when I get a new one... and that's basically it.

Alexander_D · Post by **Alexander_D** » Tue Aug 26, 2025 6:12 am

Cubase of course

harddaysnight · Post by **harddaysnight** » Wed Aug 27, 2025 6:18 am

kidslow wrote: Sat Aug 23, 2025 5:04 pm
harddaysnight wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 2:06 am I own most DAWs, use a Mac, and think S1 is the best option for people that want ARA support.

It's funny how far ARA support leaves other DAWs behind - Logic feels so old, so sluggish, so unusable to me now, and part of that is because of no ARA support.. or having to use Rosetta etc.. no thanks.

S1's great.
What is it about ARA in particular that evokes this feeling? I get workflow, but what ARA-supported plugins are you using and in what manner, that you describe returning to the alternative without them as "unusable"?

VocAlign with ARA on its own more than justifies using a DAW with ARA support.

Goodbye hours and hours spent time-aligning vocals. No thanks.

I can do now with VocAlign Pro + ARA in like, 5 seconds flat, what used to sometimes take me entire days to get "right" manually.

Can do the same thing without ARA, but it means constantly dubbing audio and probably also doing it on a track by track basis. No thanks to all that. That's still going to wind up being hours of work per track.

I spam the ever-loving shit out of harmonies and layered parts so.. I'm all in on VocAlign + a DAW with ARA support.

Didn't even touch on how awesome it is for pitch correction. lol.

Is Studio one the best choice for ARA with a Mac?