Results of snowmonsters.com and monster cable thing
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- KVRist
- 135 posts since 4 Jun, 2004
I just received an email from www.snowmonsters.com that states the results of the whole leagal thingy with monster cable. They say there is no ill will between the two companies. http://www.snowmonsters.com/MonsterCable/index.html is the link if you are interested.
-Toonyfish
-Toonyfish
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- KVRian
- 882 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from London - UK
A fascinating read, why is this page still on their website?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 135 posts since 4 Jun, 2004
cold c wrote:A fascinating read, why is this page still on their website?
That is also interesting. I wonder if they intend to keep that up there or is intentional.
-Toonyfish
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- Banned
- 6127 posts since 1 Apr, 2004 from Et in Arcadia Ego
I hope they leave it up there till monster cable turns purple & suffocates..
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- Pick Me Pick me!
- 10248 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from a state of confusion
I'm confused about this.. why would anyone be 'protecting and policing' their marks against entities that have nothing to do with their own goods? 'monsters of midway' was really a threat to monster cable? what about "dr zarr and the amazing funk monster' band.. somehow I dont think anyone was confusing them with monster cables nor were they harming the monster cable image or sales. I dont think the trademark office is required to see this either..The database people have referred to is a list of trademark oppositions and requests for extensions. Trademark objection is a normal process for trademark owners. It is the Patent and Trademark office that decides if the trademark is allowed. Snow Monsters and Monster Cable will be protecting and policing our marks, or we will be in danger of losing them.
and also.. I saw several phrases and names on the trademarked list on the other message from noel lee.. and many of them werent even audio related, why would he keep and defend such things? or is there a monster clothing line?
I guess its clear im not an 'entreprenuer' nor wish to ever become one... but it all seems a bit too greedy and cut-throat to me.
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
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- Pick Me Pick me!
- 10248 posts since 12 Mar, 2002 from a state of confusion
and also from that.. was there some sort of law passed between 1983 and 1998? there was little to nothing in the way of 'policing' in that time... why all of a sudden?
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- KVRist
- 168 posts since 28 Aug, 2004
Basically what this tells me is that the guy from snowmonsters.com had a conversation with the guy from Monster Cables, he seemed like a nice guy and he said they wouldn't file a lawsuit against them so he backed down.
Jack Turner is a pussy. What Monster Cables is doing is wrong no matter how you look at it. That's fine if you're not going to continue the lawsuit, but at least tell it like it is instead of making it seems like Monster Cables are doing something right to protect their trademark interest.
This just makes me sick all the way around. I'm going to email Jack Turner...
Jack Turner is a pussy. What Monster Cables is doing is wrong no matter how you look at it. That's fine if you're not going to continue the lawsuit, but at least tell it like it is instead of making it seems like Monster Cables are doing something right to protect their trademark interest.
This just makes me sick all the way around. I'm going to email Jack Turner...
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- KVRAF
- 12235 posts since 18 Aug, 2003
It's a formality. Generally you have 30 days after official publication of a trademark claim to object. If you don't get in during that window, you lose the opportunity to do so and the trademark is registered.VitaminD wrote:I'm confused about this.. why would anyone be 'protecting and policing' their marks against entities that have nothing to do with their own goods?
Some trademark holders obviously are more concerned than others, just as some musicians are more paranoid that someone is going to rip off their music.
In the case of Monster Cable, obviously they view "Monster" as integral to their brand identity and future market leverage. So if you try to trademark you're bakery as Monster Bread, Monster Cable will likely file an objection in the event it infringes on their brand. In most cases, I'd guess these things are allowed to pass, as a bakery and a cable/clothing/whatever company rarely clash.
Another example, if you were to try to trademark Cocabola Ski Wax, you are likely to see an objection filed. However, as long as you aren't capitalizing on the better known brand, nor competing in any way, nor to be confused with the known brand, you likely will be the owner of Cocabola Ski Wax.
Now explain why a Canadian is explaining American trademark procedure to an American?
Cheers,
Steve
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- KVRAF
- 3139 posts since 6 Sep, 2002 from United Kingdom & Opinions Will Travel :O)
That's the next step, and a very powerful one. good for them.cold c wrote:A fascinating read, why is this page still on their website?
Best regards,
Spe3d
:O)
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- KVRist
- 168 posts since 28 Aug, 2004
Well, he replied back. Here is his reply.
FYI, I never gave up. I saved my trademarks, my company, and the way I feed my family. Monster Cable dropped all oppositions to my trademarks at TTAB and the case in Federal Court would then have a nearly 100% chance of being thrown out.
I can assure you that I invested more than any single individual ever has in this process and I believe in the long run it will benefit many companies as it brought the issue to light for any companies involved in trademark disputes.
I have also committed to contacting many members of Congress once this winter is over to discuss reform of trademark law to prevent abuse. The system currently is designed to invite abuse and frivolous cases. In some cases, trademark owners feel compelled to oppose any similar marks, regardless of how unrelated, for the simple reason of proving consistency. Makes absolutely no sense and
that's a problem with the system.
Sorry if anyone feels let down, I ran all resources (financial, mental, emotional) to the ground on this one. If someone thinks that I should have pressed harder and burned out to prove a principle, I have to disagree.
JT
FYI, I never gave up. I saved my trademarks, my company, and the way I feed my family. Monster Cable dropped all oppositions to my trademarks at TTAB and the case in Federal Court would then have a nearly 100% chance of being thrown out.
I can assure you that I invested more than any single individual ever has in this process and I believe in the long run it will benefit many companies as it brought the issue to light for any companies involved in trademark disputes.
I have also committed to contacting many members of Congress once this winter is over to discuss reform of trademark law to prevent abuse. The system currently is designed to invite abuse and frivolous cases. In some cases, trademark owners feel compelled to oppose any similar marks, regardless of how unrelated, for the simple reason of proving consistency. Makes absolutely no sense and
that's a problem with the system.
Sorry if anyone feels let down, I ran all resources (financial, mental, emotional) to the ground on this one. If someone thinks that I should have pressed harder and burned out to prove a principle, I have to disagree.
JT
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- KVRAF
- 6596 posts since 21 Jun, 2004 from Secret Underground Hideout
Do the 2 letters seem contradictory to you?
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- KVRAF
- 12977 posts since 29 Sep, 2003 from Ottawa, Canada
Yes, but there have been times in MY life where I've said something just to get rid of other people. Actually, almost every day I have to do that in my grade 2 class. 
Suzie, trying to be private - Billy broke your pencil on purpose.
Billy, seeing us talking - What did Suzie just tell you?
Me - Oh, she was just telling me that her stomach hurts a little. Hey, since you're already over here, I don't suppose you saw who broke my pencil, did you?
Sometimes it's easier to be a bit subversive. 
Greg
Suzie, trying to be private - Billy broke your pencil on purpose.
Billy, seeing us talking - What did Suzie just tell you?
Me - Oh, she was just telling me that her stomach hurts a little. Hey, since you're already over here, I don't suppose you saw who broke my pencil, did you?
Greg
