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moss wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 6:55 am
Marcus Aurelius wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:00 am Glad to discover this conversion software. For simple single-layer instruments, it seems to convert well from Kontakt instruments to Logic EXS24/Sampler instruments. However, for instruments with cross-fades, the cross-fades do not carry over into the EXS24/Sampler instrument. Is there a way to correct this? Thank you.
Upt to my knowledge EXS24 does not support any crossfades.
Hello -
Sampler (Apple's new name for the updated EXS24) does support velocity cross-fades:
https://support.apple.com/en-mo/guide/l ... 8649f5/mac

I believe the old EXS24 sampler also supported velocity cross-fades via the Fade parameter.

It would be great if your very useful translator could carry over the crossfades. Thank you for all your work on this.

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Marcus Aurelius wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:17 pm
moss wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 6:55 am
Marcus Aurelius wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:00 am Glad to discover this conversion software. For simple single-layer instruments, it seems to convert well from Kontakt instruments to Logic EXS24/Sampler instruments. However, for instruments with cross-fades, the cross-fades do not carry over into the EXS24/Sampler instrument. Is there a way to correct this? Thank you.
Upt to my knowledge EXS24 does not support any crossfades.
Hello -
Sampler (Apple's new name for the updated EXS24) does support velocity cross-fades:
https://support.apple.com/en-mo/guide/l ... 8649f5/mac

I believe the old EXS24 sampler also supported velocity cross-fades via the Fade parameter.

It would be great if your very useful translator could carry over the crossfades. Thank you for all your work on this.
There is sadly no documentation for the newer Sampler format. If you know of any please post here.

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moss wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 6:13 pm
Marcus Aurelius wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:17 pm
moss wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 6:55 am
Marcus Aurelius wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2025 12:00 am Glad to discover this conversion software. For simple single-layer instruments, it seems to convert well from Kontakt instruments to Logic EXS24/Sampler instruments. However, for instruments with cross-fades, the cross-fades do not carry over into the EXS24/Sampler instrument. Is there a way to correct this? Thank you.
Upt to my knowledge EXS24 does not support any crossfades.
Hello -
Sampler (Apple's new name for the updated EXS24) does support velocity cross-fades:
https://support.apple.com/en-mo/guide/l ... 8649f5/mac

I believe the old EXS24 sampler also supported velocity cross-fades via the Fade parameter.

It would be great if your very useful translator could carry over the crossfades. Thank you for all your work on this.
There is sadly no documentation for the newer Sampler format. If you know of any please post here.
The Sampler format for presets is the same as for EXS24. It's still the file with the .exs extension. Do you have the docs for EXS24 format?

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Awesome!!! Thank you!
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Hi - I just watched Loopop's video about ConvertWithMoss, and am excited to try this out over the weekend with my Disting EX. I have a quick question, though. I also have several Disting MK4s, and also often like to use the Disting EX in "dual" mode (in other words, as two independent MK4s). The MK4 also has a multisample player, but the folders for use in the MK4's multisample player must include a playlist.txt file of the type I attached here (zipped only for uploading purposes). The format and options are described on pages 14-15 of the most recent MK4 manual.

If I can make a feature request, would it be possible to add Disting MK4 multisample capabilities to a future version of ConvertWithMoss, as well?

Thanks in advance!!
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bharris22 wrote: Wed Jun 25, 2025 2:14 pm Hi - I just watched Loopop's video about ConvertWithMoss, and am excited to try this out over the weekend with my Disting EX. I have a quick question, though. I also have several Disting MK4s, and also often like to use the Disting EX in "dual" mode (in other words, as two independent MK4s). The MK4 also has a multisample player, but the folders for use in the MK4's multisample player must include a playlist.txt file of the type I attached here (zipped only for uploading purposes). The format and options are described on pages 14-15 of the most recent MK4 manual.

If I can make a feature request, would it be possible to add Disting MK4 multisample capabilities to a future version of ConvertWithMoss, as well?

Thanks in advance!!
That file is intended for as the name implies "playlists" and not for multi-samples. The important thing is that the WAV files contain the Sample and Instrument (chunks) information. Make sure to enable these settings and simply ignore the DEX file. The Disting should pick it then up correctly.

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Hi - the Disting MK4 manual suggests that you need the playlist to tell the multisample player how to identify the correct WAVs. Are you saying that if I enable the settings you suggest, the name of the WAV file will be enough for the MK4 sample player to correctly map the samples without needing a separate playlist file?

I will definitely give this a try this weekend, and thanks!

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ConvertWithMoss 14.0.0 is online! Huge update!

Get it from https://mossgrabers.de
  • The application can now be run without the user interface for batch processing via the command line interface (CLI). See the manual for details.
  • The destination type has now a new option which allows to create performance libraries. Currently, only the Yamaha YSFC format is supported.
  • 1010music
    • New: Can be a source format for performances.
    • New: Accept sample cells which are set to granular as well as a source.
    • Fixed: Filter cutoff frequency was not read correctly.
  • Kontakt
    • New: Can be a source format for destination types library and performance.
    • Fixed: MIDI channels for Kontakt 4.2 multis were not read.
  • Korgmultisample
    • Fixed: Potential crash when source file has no creation date set.
  • TX16Wx
    • New: Can be a source and destination format for performances.
  • Yamaha YSFC
    • New: Can be a source and destination format for Performances.
    • Fixed: Pitch Key Follow Sensitivity was not read/written.
    • Fixed: Filter types were not always mapped correctly.



Enjoy!

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Wow!! Fantastic upgrade!! Thank you!! :)
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Fantastic Dude !!!
Not sure if that was addressed before, but can you please add Native Instrument Maschine format as a source ?

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Hey Jürgen, I have a question regarding how SF2 converts to SFZ under particular conditions. In the case I'm thinking of, assume that the soundfont is stereo (separated left and right files with their own loop points). When converting to SFZ, how does ConvertWithMoss assemble the sample for SFZ? Does it simply assign the left file and the right file to the SFZ for the same zone, root, velocity, etc, or does it somehow combine the stereo parts back into a single file? And if so, how is the looping and the left and right spatialization managed? Could you please explain, and maybe show how the opcodes would look in such a situation?
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audiojunkie wrote: Mon Jul 21, 2025 11:21 pm Hey Jürgen, I have a question regarding how SF2 converts to SFZ under particular conditions. In the case I'm thinking of, assume that the soundfont is stereo (separated left and right files with their own loop points). When converting to SFZ, how does ConvertWithMoss assemble the sample for SFZ? Does it simply assign the left file and the right file to the SFZ for the same zone, root, velocity, etc, or does it somehow combine the stereo parts back into a single file? And if so, how is the looping and the left and right spatialization managed? Could you please explain, and maybe show how the opcodes would look in such a situation?
They are combined to stereo in 2 cases:
- Samples are linked
- Samples are hard-panned left/right and cover the same key- and velocity region

There are 2 issues:
- length is different: The shorter one is padded with zeros and a warning is issued in the log
- Loops are different: The left loop is used and a warning is issued in the log

The sample name is the common prefix of both mono-samples. All other settings are taken from the left sample.

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Interesting! Are the loop points still kept within the combined sample?
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audiojunkie wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 11:18 am Interesting! Are the loop points still kept within the combined sample?
Yes. But if they are different only the left one.

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moss wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 12:02 pm
audiojunkie wrote: Tue Jul 22, 2025 11:18 am Interesting! Are the loop points still kept within the combined sample?
Yes. But if they are different only the left one.
Good to know. I ask, because I'm trying to determine if it would be best for me to record in mono or stereo for any future samples that I create.

My goal is to record once, build the sample in Polyphone to make an SF2, and then also create an SFZ of the same instrument with ConvertWithMoss. I want to have both formats from the same sample. At this point, I'm thinking that it may be best for me to record in Mono, so that everything converts cleanly, and I don't have to worry about this issue. I just wish there was a better way to go about it, but I don't see how, without conversion problems.
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