Wave Alchemy - Triaz Native - No Kontakt -- Free for current owners!

[kraster]

At the bottom of each channel is an icon with three vertical dots (beside the keyboard symbol.)

Click that and you can save, load, copy and swap individual parts.

Nice! The only bad thing is that it doesn't seem like there's a quick way to browse and audition these presets.

Yeah. It's a bit hidden away and some way to be able to flick through different presets would be cool.

[_leras]

Yeah, auditioning sounds could be improved for sure. I also wish I could load plain wave alchemy kits from other sample sets into it.

edit: not that Triaz is short of kits, especially with the expansions.

[mkolmar]

Triaz is clearly in the tradition of drum machines more than samplers. The pattern sequencer is key. While Triaz vs. Battery is clearly an apples-and-oranges comparison, I am still on the lookout for a drum/one-shot oriented sampler in the area that a hypothetical Battery 5 could be.

Velocity crossfade in Triaz is the biggest gap there, as it opens up an enormous amount of possibilities vs. all layers at baseline of velocity 0. If the Velocity parameter under Drum Parameters can be negative, that might work well enough. Can it?

MIDI out would be a great feature. Otherwise, it looks like MIDI export would cover the case where you can get 80% of the way inside Triaz. Export, then send some notes/channels to other instruments and build the composition from there.

Battery is streamlined in most of the right ways vs. Kontakt if the aim is to use single notes with potentially many layers depending on velocity. 3 is enough layers most of the time.

As it happens, I got the bulk of the samples from other bundles. I haven't tried Triaz, but read the manual yesterday. Considering options...

[Harry_HH]

Triaz is clearly in the tradition of drum machines more than samplers. The pattern sequencer is key. While Triaz vs. Battery is clearly an apples-and-oranges comparison, I am still on the lookout for a drum/one-shot oriented sampler in the area that a hypothetical Battery 5 could be.

Velocity crossfade in Triaz is the biggest gap there, as it opens up an enormous amount of possibilities vs. all layers at baseline of velocity 0. If the Velocity parameter under Drum Parameters can be negative, that might work well enough. Can it?

MIDI out would be a great feature. Otherwise, it looks like MIDI export would cover the case where you can get 80% of the way inside Triaz. Export, then send some notes/channels to other instruments and build the composition from there.

Battery is streamlined in most of the right ways vs. Kontakt if the aim is to use single notes with potentially many layers depending on velocity. 3 is enough layers most of the time.

As it happens, I got the bulk of the samples from other bundles. I haven't tried Triaz, but read the manual yesterday. Considering options...

” pattern sequencer is key.”

If only the plugin included library of these groove/fill patterns, everything was OK.

[mkolmar]

To answer my own question, the Velocity parameter under Drum Parameters goes from 0-100%. It would be nice to be able to do a velocity crossfade among layers, rather than rely on the XY to achieve a similar effect.

Battery has a number of different filter types. This is an important part of my approach to sound design, while not necessary for every sound. However, it is not possible to trigger e.g. Kontakt in real time.

For my case, HY-RPE2 sequencer is a better fit simply for the MIDI out. If I were just starting out, Triaz would cover all the basics quite well. The limitations are not major.

[slackhead]

” pattern sequencer is key.”

If only the plugin included library of these groove/fill patterns, everything was OK.

It does include a pretty big selection of patterns.

[Harry_HH]

” pattern sequencer is key.”

If only the plugin included library of these groove/fill patterns, everything was OK.

It does include a pretty big selection of patterns.

Well, I own Triaz, it doesn’t.
I’m talking about the groove/fill library size and organization like BFD or Groovemonkee;
by genre, type, bpm and time signature.

[tatanka]

” pattern sequencer is key.”

If only the plugin included library of these groove/fill patterns, everything was OK.

It does include a pretty big selection of patterns.

Well, I own Triaz, it doesn’t.
I’m talking about the groove/fill library size and organization like BFD or Groovemonkee;
by genre, type, bpm and time signature.

With the style based randomiser you can generate an unlimited number of patterns. And with the generate variations and auto generate variation after a selectable number of bars you can multiply these infinite number of patterns if its not enough.....

[Harry_HH]

” pattern sequencer is key.”

If only the plugin included library of these groove/fill patterns, everything was OK.

It does include a pretty big selection of patterns.

Well, I own Triaz, it doesn’t.
I’m talking about the groove/fill library size and organization like BFD or Groovemonkee;
by genre, type, bpm and time signature.

With the style based randomiser you can generate an unlimited number of patterns. And with the generate variations and auto generate variation after a selectable number of bars you can multiply these infinite number of patterns if its not enough.....

”style based randomiser” is just opposite I’m talking about.
With the ”randomizer” the work flow is very slow, often undoable.
I need selectable genre, type (intro, verse, chorus, fill, outro etc), bpm and time signature.

[kraster]

To answer my own question, the Velocity parameter under Drum Parameters goes from 0-100%. It would be nice to be able to do a velocity crossfade among layers, rather than rely on the XY to achieve a similar effect.

Battery has a number of different filter types. This is an important part of my approach to sound design, while not necessary for every sound. However, it is not possible to trigger e.g. Kontakt in real time.

For my case, HY-RPE2 sequencer is a better fit simply for the MIDI out. If I were just starting out, Triaz would cover all the basics quite well. The limitations are not major.

The x and y axis can be assigned to the motion sequencer lane.

[kraster]

To answer my own question, the Velocity parameter under Drum Parameters goes from 0-100%. It would be nice to be able to do a velocity crossfade among layers, rather than rely on the XY to achieve a similar effect.

Battery has a number of different filter types. This is an important part of my approach to sound design, while not necessary for every sound. However, it is not possible to trigger e.g. Kontakt in real time.

For my case, HY-RPE2 sequencer is a better fit simply for the MIDI out. If I were just starting out, Triaz would cover all the basics quite well. The limitations are not major.

You can assign the xy control to a motion sequencer lane.

My favourite sequencer to drive other drum synths is Playbeat 4.

I have HY Rpe 2 too but it’s a bit more fiddly in use.

[davidka]

As it's on sale, I am on the verge of getting the Triaz Expansion Bundle. Anyone has experience with it, what are your thoughts?
Are there any additional discounts available?

[dermage]

You mean the 10 expansion bundle. It's ok I guess. For me triaz factory content has way more samples and the extension is like 10% more or so (my feeling).
I'd be more happy if they'd release their complete drum libraries as real triaz extensions (including drumvolution and revolution),that would be a massive extension.

[jimbog]

You mean the 10 expansion bundle. It's ok I guess. For me triaz factory content has way more samples and the extension is like 10% more or so (my feeling).
I'd be more happy if they'd release their complete drum libraries as real triaz extensions (including drumvolution and revolution),that would be a massive extension.

Totally agree + add the intelligent scanning of users existing libraries that they informed us of well over a year ago, but which still hasn’t seen the light of day.
I’m sure a big update must be around the corner!

[jimbog]

Wishing that WA are proactively working on the deliverables they set out to achieve in their roadmap from last year