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VELLTONE MUSIC wrote: Thu Jul 24, 2025 4:59 am Not a single problem with it,silky smooth from first second of installment,you may want to check your system compatibility/stability...
Sure, that’s your experience with it. It isn’t mine. Anyway, I offered to help, you do with that what you will.

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tried OOMPH at release, didn't like it enough to buy at release, kinda skipped the weekend sale for a pretty reasonable price as well. Maybe pick it up at some point during a sale.

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Btw a little bit of OT, but when you compare Streaky's nad Sseb.'s video, you can see celarly what's wrong with music making YouTube these days. I have a problem with Streaky's explenations for quite a while now. For reasons I won't go over here. But the proof is exactly in the Sseb.'s video. Instead of "use this on that, and that on this" Sseb. explains amazingly what saturation actually is and why it sounds the way it sounds. Leaving the exact usecase up to you. That's how I imagine a qualitty educational content. ❤️
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Uncle E wrote: Thu Jul 24, 2025 5:20 am
VELLTONE MUSIC wrote: Thu Jul 24, 2025 4:59 am Not a single problem with it,silky smooth from first second of installment,you may want to check your system compatibility/stability...
Sure, that’s your experience with it. It isn’t mine. Anyway, I offered to help, you do with that what you will.
No offense,but you didn't share anything specific as problem,on win11 and cakewalk is
stable like USSR till 1991 :):):)
I am not associated with the developer,so i am not the right person to discuss issues.
I just test and write reviews for new plugins from time to time.
Few months ago, there was one plugin with so many bugs, i wasn't able to test and use and didn't write anything,so if there was any problem with this one and can't test it in my mix i would be the first to note it.
To my taste oomph is smart tool,kind of swiss knife for mixing and mastering.
Save a lot of time,like a console emu's.
As everything music related,good and bad are just matter of taste and my job isn't to convince anybody in anything,just testing and write what i hear.
And what i hear from this plugin is instant wow.
Cheers :)

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VELLTONE MUSIC wrote: Thu Jul 24, 2025 1:38 pm No offense,but you didn't share anything specific as problem,on win11 and cakewalk is
stable like USSR till 1991 :):):)
Yes, I had a feeling it might be a Mac issue. The plugin is not functional at all over here.

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Worked fine for me on win 11 as well. Just sayin…

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On Mac, the installer requires you to select a graphics engine. I reinstalled and selected a different one, now it works. Personally, I'm getting better results with Ozone but that's probably because I know it inside and out.

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It’s fine, though I don’t typically use that type of stuff. I might have bought it if they had introd it at $34 like it was over the weekend.
But the intro was $69 iirc, more than I wanted
to spend on it at the time. Good thing I didn’t
since it wasn’t that long ago.

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This discussion is interesting. When mixing in miked or analog instruments, saturation can actually become more of a problem in the mix than an opportunity. And the problem is that it can be challenging to effectively remove that oversaturation while still keeping the tonal balance of a track right.

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I guess i am stuck with plugin saturators,looking for 'best' for my mix,but plan to invest in hardware in near future.
Maybe a hardware preamp for guitar and vocal.
Agree that saturation could cause a problem.
For example eq232d is probably the most colorful and hot eq i have,but if use more of that color,the sound become plastic and worse that before eq.
The right amount and type is game changer.
Cheers :)

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stoopicus wrote: Fri Jul 25, 2025 10:20 am This discussion is interesting. When mixing in miked or analog instruments, saturation can actually become more of a problem in the mix than an opportunity. And the problem is that it can be challenging to effectively remove that oversaturation while still keeping the tonal balance of a track right.
This is one of the reasons I started doing all my effects ITB, including guitar amp emulation. Plus, the sound quality now is often quite good, though you need to be careful with aliasing on saturation plugins. Some still don't oversample enough to get rid of it. That can be fine on a channel, but you definitely don't want to put to put that on your 2 bus.
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100%, same here, it's why I sold all my pedals and now record clean, applying all effects and amps/cabs ITB. So much easier to get right.

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...me also loves Aliasing. :?
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i watch a lot of videos about mixing lately and i note that almost all mixing engineers use hardware and plugins side by side.
I guess the goal is to complete hardware character with more options of software.
Let say you have 200 euro for some new studio equipment,what will be better choice - a cheap hardware preamp or 2-3 quality new plugins with discount.
Already have tons of plugins and interested about hardware,but the popular devices are 2000-3000 euro.
What about cheap hardware?
Worth it,not worth it,which one?
More specifically a preamp is what i need now,because my scarlett 2x2 3th gen is ok,but that's all and air button isn't actually an amazing option for a guitarist.
Not sure is it really usable for pro guitar recording,give some extra air,but when mixing, the guitar presence in the mix is very confusing all across the sonic spectrum,considering that lower guitar notes of E power chord is E41hz-B61hz and confront the kick directly,the upper harmonics confront other instruments presence too.
I like dark guitar tones so have to focus on 40-200 hz area,which is already taken by kick and bass.
Mixing guitar is sometimes total controversy of notes,harmonics so on.
I like overdrive,tube saturation or whatever i can put in low spectrum,trebles prefer to be clean or gently saturated.
By the way,writing this i remember i have interesting guitar plugin called pa te100 which may do the right job with the guitar presence,not sure what it is exactly a compressor or eq,but demos was inspirational enough :)
Anyway, like to play guitar,hate to mix it :)
Cheers :)

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Even the expensive devices are going to be subtle in comparison to something like an Ox Stomp or plugins. Or start on the opposite end and use a super smooth pedal, such as a Zendrive.

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