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I've been doing more research, and I may have found a solution. The key would be to have the stereo sample have the exact loop points. I found this message that may be useful:

https://forum.openmpt.org/index.php?topic=6154.0
I think there is a conceptual misunderstanding here. You try to make the left and right channels to be similar, but that is not necessary for a perfect loop. In fact, most of the time this will not be possible because the left and right channel will be out of phase (which is a big part of the stereo impression).
What's important is that the part before the loop end smoothly continues into the part after the loop end (i.e. the loop start), and it has to do so on both channels independently, i.e. the phase before the loop end must match the phase after the loop start (independently for L and R). The "on both channels" is the difficult part exactly because of the different phases. As an example, if you apply a slow chorus effect on the sample, the loop will only sound good if it repeats at a multiple of the chorus cycle's length because that's where the phases will be "in sync".
I think a good approach is to find a loop that is relatively good (i.e. both L and R phases match approximately at the loop start and end, but may still produce clicks) and then apply the loop crossfader from the toolbar to fix up the loop. Depending on the sample content, a very small crossfade (just a couple dozen or hundreds of samples) with the second slider all the way to left (constant volume) might already do the trick for fixing the click. Otherwise, a longer crossfade but with the second slider all the way to the right (constant power) might be better.
The hard part will be figuring out the best way to have exact start and end loop points so that they match perfectly. As I understand it from what you say, if I do have exactly matching loop points, then the conversion to SFZ should work properly.
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ConvertWithMoss 14.1.0 is online!

Get it from https://mossgrabers.de
  • Logging: Improved logging output of missing samples. Added ConvertWithMoss version number and source/destination-format to log.
  • Sample search: Added support for finding samples with wrong upper/lower case in the extension of the samples name.
  • Improved processing cancellation.
  • DecentSampler
    • New: The value for the amplitude velocity sensitivity is now initialized in the template via the new variable %ENV_VELOCITY_SENSITIVITY%.
    • New: The delay Mix default value is now set to zero in the template.
  • Kontakt
    • Fixed: Reading of Soundinfo could fail in rare cases with file version 4.2.
    • Fixed: File lists of version 4.2.4 and 5.0.x were not always read correctly.
  • Yamaha YSFC
    • Fixed: Montage files were not written correctly.
Enjoy!

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Nice! Thank you! :)
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moss wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 6:12 pm Someone noticed a critical issue with writing the Multisample format and while fixing this I noticed another issue with Kontakt, so here is 8.5.1:

[*]Fixed: Bitwig could not process the ZIP compressed samples due to an added info field. Additional info is removed again.
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Hi Moss,

I am trying to convert from Bitwig Multisample to TAL Sampler, however when I go to select the multisample file in the Source section of 14.1.0 on MacOS 15.5 the file is greyed out and can't be selected. Bitwig 5.3.12.

Am I missing something?

Many thanks

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Sekops wrote: Wed Aug 06, 2025 8:58 am
moss wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2024 6:12 pm Someone noticed a critical issue with writing the Multisample format and while fixing this I noticed another issue with Kontakt, so here is 8.5.1:

[*]Fixed: Bitwig could not process the ZIP compressed samples due to an added info field. Additional info is removed again.
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Hi Moss,

I am trying to convert from Bitwig Multisample to TAL Sampler, however when I go to select the multisample file in the Source section of 14.1.0 on MacOS 15.5 the file is greyed out and can't be selected. Bitwig 5.3.12.

Am I missing something?

Many thanks
Yes. :-) You select folders not single files since this is a batch converter.

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Thanks Moss, makes sense now!

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Would you please advise what has been fixed on the YSFC side in 14.1? Is that the Loop End bug I reported to you in PM?

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Khaleen wrote: Sat Aug 09, 2025 8:29 pm Would you please advise what has been fixed on the YSFC side in 14.1? Is that the Loop End bug I reported to you in PM?
Hmm, not fully sure but this should be fixed as well.

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yassinex wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 2:28 pm Fantastic Dude !!!
Not sure if that was addressed before, but can you please add Native Instrument Maschine format as a source ?
+1 on Maschine. I'd be happy to supply a Maschine .mxgrp file, as well as the matching MPC .pgm and .xpm files I created of the same library.

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Hey, I just came accross this, I tried it on Win 11 with an older Kontakt library, it says not enough memory to run javascript, do I need to install javascript or something maybe ?

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hotmitts wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 12:20 pm Hey, I just came accross this, I tried it on Win 11 with an older Kontakt library, it says not enough memory to run javascript, do I need to install javascript or something maybe ?
When does this message show and where? ConvertWithMoss does not use JavaScript.

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Hi Jurgen,

Thank you for your great program, im having some problems when i try to convert a korg KMP file to Wavestate .korgmultisample... (KORG KSC/KMP/KSF to Korg Wavestate/Modwave)

it converts the .ksf to .wav but the loop of that .wavs are not recognized.. so no loop...

I get:

ONESHOT

Start -1
Loop -1
End 7

on all .wav files! at this point i have no sound, so have to move the End to hear something.

What im doing wrong? i already tried the: sample (unity note, pitch fraction, loops) checked and unchecked and with more than one sound sample.

Can you please help me ?
Also, does anyone knows a software sampler that can load .KMP Korg sound samples?

Best regards

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xp98 wrote: Mon Aug 25, 2025 3:26 pm Hi Jurgen,

Thank you for your great program, im having some problems when i try to convert a korg KMP file to Wavestate .korgmultisample... (KORG KSC/KMP/KSF to Korg Wavestate/Modwave)

it converts the .ksf to .wav but the loop of that .wavs are not recognized.. so no loop...

I get:

ONESHOT

Start -1
Loop -1
End 7

on all .wav files! at this point i have no sound, so have to move the End to hear something.

What im doing wrong? i already tried the: sample (unity note, pitch fraction, loops) checked and unchecked and with more than one sound sample.

Can you please help me ?
Also, does anyone knows a software sampler that can load .KMP Korg sound samples?

Best regards
Please send me an example for testing. PM me the download link.

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Sent the files! :)

Thank you Moss!

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xp98 wrote: Tue Aug 26, 2025 2:39 pm Sent the files! :)

Thank you Moss!
To where?

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