Massive X 1.6.1 update (September 2025)!

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jancivil wrote: Wed Jul 30, 2025 7:33 pm
Funky40 wrote: Wed Jul 30, 2025 7:15 pm ntk.deamon
how to remove it on a mac ?
NTK Daemon.app is in Macintosh HD/Application Support/Native Instruments
Thank you !

ok: ........Native Instruments/NTK


i can delete that, right ? not causing problems
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Funky40 wrote: Wed Jul 30, 2025 7:15 pm ntk.deamon how to remove it on a mac ?
System / General / Login Items & Extensions. Turn off Native Access there. It links out to /Library/LaunchDaemons/, which is just a plist which calls the NI helper (/Library/PrivilegedHelperTools/). This is what allows everything else to do stuff without password permissions.

NTK Daemon is kept inside Library/Application Support/Native Instruments/NTK, in the NTKDaemon.app. Would recommend you just rename, rather than delete, the app. Then you can rename it back if need be.

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It took them 6 years to fix the browser but I’ll take it

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PAK wrote: Wed Jul 30, 2025 8:37 pm
Funky40 wrote: Wed Jul 30, 2025 7:15 pm ntk.deamon how to remove it on a mac ?
System / General / Login Items & Extensions. Turn off Native Access there. It links out to /Library/LaunchDaemons/, which is just a plist which calls the NI helper (/Library/PrivilegedHelperTools/). This is what allows everything else to do stuff without password permissions.

NTK Daemon is kept inside Library/Application Support/Native Instruments/NTK, in the NTKDaemon.app. Would recommend you just rename, rather than delete, the app. Then you can rename it back if need be.
Ok, i´ll follow that advice.
Thank You !
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Hmm.
I just had the worst deja vu.
Big company makes a great synth. Then puts out a Player version hoping it will boost sales of expensive soundbanks. Months later that company got bought by Apple.

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osiris wrote: Wed Jul 30, 2025 9:06 pm Hmm.
I just had the worst deja vu.
Big company makes a great synth. Then puts out a Player version hoping it will boost sales of expensive soundbanks. Months later that company got bought by Apple.
one can only hope...
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I just checked Native Access, and it shows Massive X at 1.4 with no updates available. I bought it a few years ago as part of Komplete. Do I have to buy it again now in order to get the update?

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You probably just have to update Native Access.

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fisherKing wrote: Wed Jul 30, 2025 9:21 pm
osiris wrote: Wed Jul 30, 2025 9:06 pm Hmm.
I just had the worst deja vu.
Big company makes a great synth. Then puts out a Player version hoping it will boost sales of expensive soundbanks. Months later that company got bought by Apple.
one can only hope...
Or rather “hope not” :?

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>>You probably just have to update Native Access.>>

Bingo. Thank you.

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osiris wrote: Wed Jul 30, 2025 9:06 pm Hmm.
I just had the worst deja vu.
Big company makes a great synth. Then puts out a Player version hoping it will boost sales of expensive soundbanks. Months later that company got bought by Apple.
Quite a few months later. Alchemy Player was released in 2010. Apple bought Camel in 2015.
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osiris wrote: Wed Jul 30, 2025 9:06 pm Hmm.
I just had the worst deja vu.
Big company makes a great synth. Then puts out a Player version hoping it will boost sales of expensive soundbanks. Months later that company got bought by Apple.
really, this is pointless. we could also worry about: a developer folding and no one buys it's assets. or NI does. or plugin boutique. zzzzzzzzz...................
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Teksonik wrote: Wed Jul 30, 2025 7:04 pm Okay I just did the update...meh. Nothing in there for me.

It required Native Access to be updated and that brought their NTKDaemon.exe spyware back:.
Yeah, it's not spyware though. It does however seem unnecessary- at least disabling it doesn't seem to have any major impact.

The oft repeated explanation for its ultimate purpose seems pretty tepid for something that is constantly running. But calling it spyware is a bit of an overreaction imo.

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seangm wrote: Tue Jul 29, 2025 2:29 pmOk, but is the full functionality of the synth still available after the update? What is the "Player Page""? So many questions and no info I can find from NI on the update. To me "Massive X Player" sounds like it's a "lite" version of the synth? Or am I missing something?
The Player page is just a simplified interface with a row of macro knobs and a big X-Y pad. It's very similar to Arturia's Analog Lab, only where AL gives you access to every sound engine in their V Collection, the Player page only gives you access to Massive X patches. i.e. It is the full Massive X synth engine with a limited interface that only let's you tweak a handful of parameters. But if you own the full version, you can still access the main panel, just like always.
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It is a good update IMO. Although I don't see a way to record my movements inside the player (as part of the preset), but I can record them as automation in the host. Very nice to move many parameters at once, especially for pads movements.
I like Korg's Modwave Kaoss movements implementation more though.
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