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EDIT: As some folks considered my sharing of a link to the original blog article to be a propagation of something they deem as click-bait, I have removed the link and pasted the relevant bits from the original blog article (and Americanized the English for no good reason):

A number of good points are made by Ray Harmony in a recent blog post:
Ray Harmony wrote:"Making Music is Hard. Why Bother?"

I never thought this day would come. But here it is.

After 30 years of teaching music to thousands of students, I’m facing a previously unimagined challenge: convincing people who want to make music that they should learn how to do it.

Never in human history has there been any other option. But now, there are robots that can make “your” music for you. Is it yours if you didn’t write it? No, but the masses embracing AI-generated music don’t seem bothered by that fact.

There are only 12 notes in music, so it’s relatively easy to understand. But making music is not as easy. And making good music is rather hard. That’s because there are infinite ways to combine those 12 notes melodically and harmonically. And then there’s the eternal world of rhythm. Infinity x eternity. That’s a lot of options!

Yet despite the never-ending options, for a beginner songwriter it usually feels like every combination they choose ends up sounding a bit rubbish. Where are all those great combinations hiding? Only years of exploring will begin to reveal them.

And therein lies the problem. In the good ol’ days before AI, if someone wanted to make music, there was only one option: learn how. But in this brave new world, why bother spending years learning and practicing, when you can just get a robot to do it for you? No need for learning, practicing, or even patience. A complete beginner can use AI to make a song (and the cover art too), then upload it to Spotify. All before breakfast.

And that brings me back to my new challenge of convincing people that learning how to make good music is worth the effort. That is my new passion. Because, we know from history that it only takes one generation to lose a skill. If humans can’t be convinced that making music is a skill worth preserving, it will be lost forever.

Just another fossil from those less “civilized” people of a bygone era. You know, those poor people who had to walk everywhere, grow their own food, and make their own music. Yeah those people. Wow, sucked to be them! Yes they were much happier and healthier than us, but still, no smart phones? Sucked to be them!

So, why bother writing your own music? Because the process is what’s valuable, not the end result. The process of expressing ourselves by making music improves our mental health, our spiritual health, and even our physical health. And sharing our music in-person connects us to our fellow humans in a way that nothing else does. If all that’s not enough, how about this: making music is playful and fun! Remember those things? It’s what we used to do before smart phones were invented.

There’s one caveat, though. It’s only fun if you know how to do it. If you don’t, then it’s frustrating. And I suspect that’s the main reason why people are turning to AI. But AI is not the solution. The solution is learning and practicing. And the more you learn and practice, the more fun the songwriting process becomes.

It’s like exercising. When we first start, it’s horrible. Our muscles burn, our lungs burn, and every fiber of our being shouts “STOP!” Sadly, most people do. But for the ones who persevere, something magical happens. Each week the burning gets less, and the shouting gets softer. Then one day right in the middle of an exercise session, we suddenly realize our inner voice is shouting: “GO! GO! GO!” It usually takes a few months to break through that barrier, but when we do, the fun makes it all worthwhile.

I want you to enjoy that post-breakthrough fun with your music. There’s no better feeling. But it requires trust. And I’m not asking you to trust me. I’m asking you to trust yourself, and to trust the journey. Until you reach that breakthrough, it’s hard. But if you give up before then, you’ll never reap the health rewards. And you’ll miss out on a ton of fun, too!
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Living is hard, so why bother?
“The Generals sat, and the lines on the map, moved from side to side.”
― Pink Floyd

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hard compared to?

i personally find the act of making music, far easier than i would climbing a mountain for example.
ive written lots of music, only ever climbed one mountain, and not a very big one, and we walked up, no actual climbing involved :shrug:
but i was 13 then, my knees couldnt do it now :(
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Making music is.not hard. Anybody can do it. Making music that feels good where one would want to listen to it over and over again.......that's hard but only because music theory and self imposed judgement gets in the way.

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I presume folks did not actually read the linked blog article?
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tonedef71 wrote: Sat Aug 02, 2025 4:09 am I presume folks did not actually read the linked blog article?
Correct. It offers nothing.

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VOODOO U wrote: Sat Aug 02, 2025 4:11 am
tonedef71 wrote: Sat Aug 02, 2025 4:09 am I presume folks did not actually read the linked blog article?
Correct. It offers nothing.
People cannot be bothered to read a blog article, and people cannot be bothered to learn the art of music creation. It only takes just one generation for a skill to be lost to time. Eventually, mainstream music -- along with other artistic crafts that are expressed through digital mediums -- will almost entirely be AI-generated, so long as humans cannot be bothered to put in the time and effort to preserve the craft. Perhaps it just the natural/inevitable order and evolution of things.
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The problem with this blog post is that it’s a sentence drawn out into a full article. I’ll save you the time:

“So, why bother writing your own music? Because the process is what’s valuable, not the end result.”
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tonedef71 wrote: Sat Aug 02, 2025 4:23 am
VOODOO U wrote: Sat Aug 02, 2025 4:11 am
tonedef71 wrote: Sat Aug 02, 2025 4:09 am I presume folks did not actually read the linked blog article?
Correct. It offers nothing.
People cannot be bothered to read a blog article, and people cannot be bothered to learn the art of music creation. It only takes just one generation for a skill to be lost to time. Eventually, mainstream music -- along with other artistic crafts that are expressed through digital mediums -- will almost entirely be AI-generated, so long as humans cannot be bothered to put in the time and effort to preserve the craft. Perhaps it just the natural/inevitable order and evolution of things.
Bull. People still garden, despite farms. People still paint, despite cameras. People still cook, despite restaurants. People still have sex, despite porn. Even if formal music education gets lost to the sands of time, people will still make music. The fact that even the most isolated tribes have music shows that it’s intrinsic to being human.
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I did read it, and it’s not a blog article, nor is it an enlightened discussion of the threat of AI. It’s a not-so-cleverly disguised ad for his online apprenticeship course.
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tonedef71 wrote: Sat Aug 02, 2025 4:23 am People cannot be bothered to read a blog article, and ....
cryophonik wrote: Sat Aug 02, 2025 4:48 am I did read it, and it’s not a blog article, nor is it an enlightened discussion of the threat of AI. It’s a not-so-cleverly disguised ad for his online apprenticeship course.
Mmmmhh ... :roll:
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tonedef71 wrote:Eventually, mainstream music -- -- will almost entirely be AI-generated,
What makes you think it's not already AI generated? It sure sounds like it.
so long as humans cannot be bothered to put in the time and effort to preserve the craft.
Classical music is still preserved after all these years against all odds.

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And played.
Learning music was always a joy as well as a necessity, for me. The only things that were hard for me were sore fngers and being humbled watching more advanced players. I'm a guitarist, primarily, though my first instrument was a reed organ (technically, my father's accordion a few years prior). It always was like unravelling a mystery to me. Music was magick to me when I started, and occasionally, still is. No, I didn't read the article. If it's about AI generated music, I want nothing to do with it. I absolutely refuse to go near ChatGPT or other algos because I believe they will lead to the diminishment of my creativity. There's already evidence that the internet is rewiring our brains toward more superficial learning, reducing attention spans and long term memory. AI will make the majority even lazier. Only a savvy minority will be able to do anything meaningful with it. 'Oh, I wrote a song!' No, you fed prompts into an algorithm. It's the next step of someone throwing a few loops together and thinking they're bloody Mozart.
I, in my curmudeonly dotage, eschew such delusions.
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zerocrossing wrote: Sat Aug 02, 2025 4:31 am The problem with this blog post is that it’s a sentence drawn out into a full article. I’ll save you the time:

“So, why bother writing your own music? Because the process is what’s valuable, not the end result.”
There are so many people on the internet that are so desperate to produce content that they extend anything out.

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Constructed Identity wrote: Sat Aug 02, 2025 5:47 pm There are so many people on the internet that are so desperate to produce content that they extend anything out.
hey now, 2 hours is reasonable for an ambient piece :o :hihi:
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