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Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Mon Aug 04, 2025 5:43 pm

michat wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:00 pm @sheaf I can't wait for this to be released. Owned a SY99 in the past and sold it 2017 because it was too big and I needed the money for a smaller MIDI keyboard but regret it each day since then.

Sadly, an SY77 is quite different from an SY99.

michat · Post by **michat** » Mon Aug 04, 2025 8:51 pm

Uncle E wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 5:43 pm
michat wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 1:00 pm @sheaf I can't wait for this to be released. Owned a SY99 in the past and sold it 2017 because it was too big and I needed the money for a smaller MIDI keyboard but regret it each day since then.
Sadly, an SY77 is quite different from an SY99.

Oh, I thought the differences are mainly the number of internal AWM samples, RAM size and some fx like the leslie and the exciter are missing? I must admit though that I quite often used the exciter...... A very gritty sound as far as I remember.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Mon Aug 04, 2025 8:59 pm

I don't know the technical differences, I only know that when you load an SY77 patch into an SY99, it will sound quite different, even when no effects are used.

McLilith · Post by **McLilith** » Tue Aug 05, 2025 2:08 am

Uncle E wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 8:59 pm I don't know the technical differences, I only know that when you load an SY77 patch into an SY99, it will sound quite different, even when no effects are used.

I had a Yamaha factory service rep tell me that even the TG77 rack mount synth and the SY77 keyboard synth had a reputation for sounding at least slightly different. Apparently, some folks thought the TG77 rack mount unit sounded a bit cleaner. I think the TG77 used a different DAC, which might have been a little newer, along with a few misc. differences in the analog circuitry. I've owned both a TG77 and an SY77, but never at the same time. So, I can't speak definitively on whatever differences might exist between those two particular models. I'd be interested to hear from anyone who actually has both. Is there really a noticeable difference between a TG77 and an SY77?

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Tue Aug 05, 2025 2:15 am

I had a Yamaha SY85. Is that like it?

oldmica · Post by **oldmica** » Tue Aug 05, 2025 2:20 am

If anyone is interested, I have a '99 here and can look at the analog section's components to suss which opamps are used. It might take a little bit of time - the unit is already apart for maintenance, however.

Edit: I also have the SY99 service manual/schematics, and I just found the SY77 set so I'll see if anything obvious shows up in a comparison between the two.

McLilith · Post by **McLilith** » Tue Aug 05, 2025 2:27 am

Aloysius wrote: Tue Aug 05, 2025 2:15 am I had a Yamaha SY85. Is that like it?

It has some things in common, but the SY85 only plays sampled waveforms. The FX section might also be similar, but I'm not certain exactly how similar.

The SY77, TG77, and SY99 will play sampled waveforms, and they have an FX section, but they also have an FM synth engine in addition to their sample (rompler) engine.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Tue Aug 05, 2025 2:28 am

Thank you.

soundman007 · Post by **soundman007** » Tue Aug 05, 2025 10:07 am

Uncle E wrote: Mon Aug 04, 2025 5:42 pm

Sheaf said that the beta list is closed.

Thanks for letting me know, I must have missed this message. Could you point me to it? I could not find it.

Etienne1973 · Post by **Etienne1973** » Tue Aug 05, 2025 6:07 pm

@soundman007

sheaf wrote: Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:52 am Had to do some last minute fixes for a problem that revealed itself when I did some more thorough testing in Logic, but I'm really ready to send out installers today.

Thanks for all the offers to test! It's appreciated. Between all the offers going back to the first pages of the thread and my email inbox I've got more potential testers lined up than I can handle right now, so I'm not going to include everyone.

I also decided to separate my plugin operation from my music, so I made a new label and website for the product: https://strydeaudio.com/sway. Still a work in progress.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Tue Aug 05, 2025 6:22 pm

How is the beta male testing going?

bnz · Post by **bnz** » Tue Aug 05, 2025 6:23 pm

Thats a nice website. But that Outrun theme isn't working that I desperately wanted to hear

edit: now its working

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Tue Aug 05, 2025 7:08 pm

Aloysius wrote: Tue Aug 05, 2025 6:22 pm How is the beta male testing going?

Low T/high soy

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Tue Aug 05, 2025 7:30 pm

soundman007 · Post by **soundman007** » Wed Aug 06, 2025 7:04 am

Etienne1973 wrote: Tue Aug 05, 2025 6:07 pm @soundman007

sheaf wrote: Sun Jul 20, 2025 8:52 am Had to do some last minute fixes for a problem that revealed itself when I did some more thorough testing in Logic, but I'm really ready to send out installers today.

Thanks for all the offers to test! It's appreciated. Between all the offers going back to the first pages of the thread and my email inbox I've got more potential testers lined up than I can handle right now, so I'm not going to include everyone.

I also decided to separate my plugin operation from my music, so I made a new label and website for the product: https://strydeaudio.com/sway. Still a work in progress.

Thanks Etienne1973!

SWAY - a synth modeled after the Yamaha SY77