Behringer Pro-1 vs Pro-800 mono sound

[D-Fusion]

Yes even with the latest firmware
The latest firmwares was more about making a few more envelope tweaks for more snappy envelopes curves and bugfixes but the abrupt ending of the envelope release is still the same as on the prophet 600.

It is a great Synth and it is a nobrainer for the low prices they go for now.

The Pro 1 is closer to a mono prophet 5 and the Pro 800 is a Prophet 600 clone so they will never be the same.

There are many 80s synths that uses the same cem chips and still they are voiced and tweaked differently.

[seafire]

Cheers

[D-Fusion]

Here you can hear the difference Between the Pro-1 and the Pro 800 when saw and square are enabled on oscillator one.

The first part is the Pro-1 and the Second one is the Pro 800 and you can hear that the Pro 800 has more bass and glued sound and the Pro-1 sound more open less bass heavy and in your face like a typical Mono synth will sound in comparison with most Poly synths in mono mode.

It was recorded in Wav format so no Mp3 compression or other things that can color the sound and this is the reason why i have both since they are a great team with their own Personality

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The Gforce OB-X is my Pro-800 Backup if something happens to my Pro 800 since they sound very similar so it works great as a substitute for the HW.

The only difference is that on the OB-X you have to set the Filter tracking all the way to the Right like you have to do on a Prophet 5 to open the filter fully which was normal for many of the synths of that Era.
The Pro 800 doesn't need that trick since the filter Cutoff knob works the same way as it does on most modern synths so it opens and closes fully.

[Uncle E]

FWIW, a real Pro One sounds a lot different from a real Prophet 600 with Gligli mod.

Also FWIW, the Behringer JT-Mini is one of the best sounding mono synths ever made, IMO.

[seafire]

Also FWIW, the Behringer JT-Mini is one of the best sounding mono synths ever made, IMO.

It's polyphonic

[Uncle E]

The polyphonic mode is useless.

[suthnear]

Also FWIW, the Behringer JT-Mini is one of the best sounding mono synths ever made, IMO.

Really? I'm not being sarcastic - genuinely curious. It seems far too limited to deserve such accolades. I mean, a real jupiter 8 wouldn't make it into the list of top monos. IMO, of course

[Uncle E]

Really? I'm not being sarcastic - genuinely curious. It seems far too limited to deserve such accolades. I mean, a real jupiter 8 wouldn't make it into the list of top monos. IMO, of course

Yes, I completely get you, it's super limited. But the sound.

[seafire]

Also FWIW, the Behringer JT-Mini is one of the best sounding mono synths ever made, IMO.

Really? I'm not being sarcastic - genuinely curious. It seems far too limited to deserve such accolades. I mean, a real jupiter 8 wouldn't make it into the list of top monos. IMO, of course

Thats because its polyphonic. No idea why he made that incorrect statement about the JT mini.

[Uncle E]

Thats because its polyphonic. No idea why he made that incorrect statement about the JT mini.

You can use it as a single oscillator paraphonic synth if you want but it's terrible. Unison is a misnomer because there's only one VCF and VCA, that mode is a 3 oscillator mono synth.

[D-Fusion]

Thats because its polyphonic. No idea why he made that incorrect statement about the JT mini.

You can use it as a single oscillator paraphonic synth if you want but it's terrible. Unison is a misnomer because there's only one VCF and VCA, that mode is a 3 oscillator mono synth.

It is the same with the JT-4000
Wish they added a Mono mode to that one too and better Envelope behavior.
You play a Chord and the Volume slowly fades down to a certain range and only goes up again after you have played 1 note a few times.

It is Totaly useless as a poly/paraphonic synth.

[discogsaddict]

Pro One also allows driving the mixer section and filter whilst 800 is clean.

For example Pro One waveforms will change shape around 4-5 on the mixer section. Makes quite a difference to the filter and resonance depending how hard its driven. I really like having that option.

This is basic mono vs poly stuff and makes sense if you think a poly needs to leave headroom for all those voices.

Most of the Behringer monos behave like this and possibly go harder than the originals. I remember seeing a comparison with the K2 and an MS20 where the user had the mixers on full then made a point of saying how the Behringer filter sounded different. Yet if he had backed off the K2 oscillators he would have been able to match them.

Strange thing is the B Cat does not drive this way and is much tamer than the original