Windows 10 Consumer Extended Security Updates (ESU) program
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- KVRist
- 435 posts since 6 May, 2004 from Land of a million drums
So as most of you know Windows 10 service is ending in October. My audio PC that I bought in 2018 is still running strong after all these years with Windows 10 but it is not possible to install Windows 11 due to outdated hardware (I know there are ways of editing the registry and installing it anyway but that is not for me).
Today I found out about this ESU program that for $30 you get 1 more year of security updates for Windows 10. On one hand I'm kind of pissed off about this since they should offer it for free but I am considering it.
Would it be a good idea to partake in this program or should I raw dog it after October?
Today I found out about this ESU program that for $30 you get 1 more year of security updates for Windows 10. On one hand I'm kind of pissed off about this since they should offer it for free but I am considering it.
Would it be a good idea to partake in this program or should I raw dog it after October?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 435 posts since 6 May, 2004 from Land of a million drums
Thanks looks like I’ll do that.sprnva wrote: Wed Aug 13, 2025 10:44 pm There's a way to get it for free. I haven't tried this myself as I rarely ever boot into it so not sure if I'll bother.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 435 posts since 6 May, 2004 from Land of a million drums
Well... None of the ESU stuff is in my options eventhough I'm running the latest update, logged in on admin account with my Microsoft account and activated onedrive. I read theyre still rolling out the program until mid-august and that it doesn't show up for everyone yet.
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- KVRAF
- 7115 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
It's a very efficient strategy to "run people" by fear.
What exactly is it that is going to happen to your computer when security updates stop?
- what are the odds to even stumble on anything?
- just use some common sense and don't download anything saying "FREE"
Free stuff is the main security risk, so just don't deal with that.
I ran XP for 18 years and when power supply broke it was not feasable to spend more money on that machine. Besides most browsers had issues with so many sites that I could not cure with "User-Agent"-managers. So it had to go.
I am to use this W10 laptop I write on as long as it works for internet use, which is main purpose.
- doing backups weekly so email history is there
Jordan B Peterson defined the difference between a leader and a tyrant
- the tyrant use fear to produce compulsion
So we have a choice letting us be run by fear or not....
What exactly is it that is going to happen to your computer when security updates stop?
- what are the odds to even stumble on anything?
- just use some common sense and don't download anything saying "FREE"
Free stuff is the main security risk, so just don't deal with that.
I ran XP for 18 years and when power supply broke it was not feasable to spend more money on that machine. Besides most browsers had issues with so many sites that I could not cure with "User-Agent"-managers. So it had to go.
I am to use this W10 laptop I write on as long as it works for internet use, which is main purpose.
- doing backups weekly so email history is there
Jordan B Peterson defined the difference between a leader and a tyrant
- the tyrant use fear to produce compulsion
So we have a choice letting us be run by fear or not....
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- KVRist
- 271 posts since 26 Jun, 2021
Backing up your docs and projects, doing a fresh install of Win11 is the easy and cheap way.
Don't fall for the "outdated hardware" line, no such thing, and only affects "easy, inplace, upgradeability" option.
Or just stay on 10.
Don't fall for the "outdated hardware" line, no such thing, and only affects "easy, inplace, upgradeability" option.
Or just stay on 10.
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- KVRist
- 105 posts since 20 Dec, 2014
BJ wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 2:44 am Well... None of the ESU stuff is in my options eventhough I'm running the latest update, logged in on admin account with my Microsoft account and activated onedrive. I read theyre still rolling out the program until mid-august and that it doesn't show up for everyone yet.
Have the same problem, still have no options available to extend Win10. When will they be making this available for everyone ? My machine is far too old for 11 and I have no intention of buying a new pc when this one still works perfectly fine.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 435 posts since 6 May, 2004 from Land of a million drums
Same here I still don’t see it. Hopefully by the end of August. You have to be logged in on a Microsoft account for it to work.MeanMrMustard wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 12:18 pmBJ wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 2:44 am Well... None of the ESU stuff is in my options eventhough I'm running the latest update, logged in on admin account with my Microsoft account and activated onedrive. I read theyre still rolling out the program until mid-august and that it doesn't show up for everyone yet.
Have the same problem, still have no options available to extend Win10. When will they be making this available for everyone ? My machine is far too old for 11 and I have no intention of buying a new pc when this one still works perfectly fine.
- KVRian
- 857 posts since 12 May, 2004
On a number of Macs
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- KVRist
- 271 posts since 26 Jun, 2021
Am I shadow banned or something?BJ wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 2:57 pmSame here I still don’t see it. Hopefully by the end of August. You have to be logged in on a Microsoft account for it to work.MeanMrMustard wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 12:18 pmBJ wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 2:44 am Well... None of the ESU stuff is in my options eventhough I'm running the latest update, logged in on admin account with my Microsoft account and activated onedrive. I read theyre still rolling out the program until mid-august and that it doesn't show up for everyone yet.
Have the same problem, still have no options available to extend Win10. When will they be making this available for everyone ? My machine is far too old for 11 and I have no intention of buying a new pc when this one still works perfectly fine.
There is no such thing as a computer that is too old to run Windows 11.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 435 posts since 6 May, 2004 from Land of a million drums
So you're saying I can do a fresh install of Windows 11 even if my processor is not supported?vstdls wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 11:18 pmAm I shadow banned or something?BJ wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 2:57 pmSame here I still don’t see it. Hopefully by the end of August. You have to be logged in on a Microsoft account for it to work.MeanMrMustard wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 12:18 pmBJ wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 2:44 am Well... None of the ESU stuff is in my options eventhough I'm running the latest update, logged in on admin account with my Microsoft account and activated onedrive. I read theyre still rolling out the program until mid-august and that it doesn't show up for everyone yet.
Have the same problem, still have no options available to extend Win10. When will they be making this available for everyone ? My machine is far too old for 11 and I have no intention of buying a new pc when this one still works perfectly fine.
There is no such thing as a computer that is too old to run Windows 11.
I'm pulling in a rather large Windows update right now. Hope this is the ESU stuff. I'll deal with Windows 11 when I get a new PC.
Edit: still not the ESU stuff...
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- KVRAF
- 7115 posts since 22 Jan, 2005 from Sweden
Are you sure?vstdls wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 11:18 pm There is no such thing as a computer that is too old to run Windows 11.
I read that even Windows 10 need Kaby Lake or later?
- if OS is compiled with some instruction sets it will not run properly otherwise
And at best these are ignored, but could affect performance.
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- KVRist
- 271 posts since 26 Jun, 2021
Yes. You can either build a Win11 install image directly from microsoft that bypasses TPM requirement, MS Account requirements, etc. Or you can go the easier route and use Rufus to create the install packages from the standard Win11 install .iso. You can deselect any of these "requirements" prior to creating the install media (usb stick).BJ wrote: Wed Aug 20, 2025 12:51 amSo you're saying I can do a fresh install of Windows 11 even if my processor is not supported?vstdls wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 11:18 pmAm I shadow banned or something?BJ wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 2:57 pmSame here I still don’t see it. Hopefully by the end of August. You have to be logged in on a Microsoft account for it to work.MeanMrMustard wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 12:18 pmBJ wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 2:44 am Well... None of the ESU stuff is in my options eventhough I'm running the latest update, logged in on admin account with my Microsoft account and activated onedrive. I read theyre still rolling out the program until mid-august and that it doesn't show up for everyone yet.
Have the same problem, still have no options available to extend Win10. When will they be making this available for everyone ? My machine is far too old for 11 and I have no intention of buying a new pc when this one still works perfectly fine.
There is no such thing as a computer that is too old to run Windows 11.
I'm pulling in a rather large Windows update right now. Hope this is the ESU stuff. I'll deal with Windows 11 when I get a new PC.
Edit: still not the ESU stuff...
https://rufus.ie/en/
The "hardware requirement" is for in-place "upgrades" only.
https://rufus.ie/pics/screenshot4_en.png
Last edited by vstdls on Wed Aug 20, 2025 2:20 am, edited 3 times in total.
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- KVRist
- 271 posts since 26 Jun, 2021
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- KVRist
- 216 posts since 26 Nov, 2022
Interesting, thanks for this info! Do you now if Win 11 Pro version is required?vstdls wrote: Wed Aug 20, 2025 2:07 amYes. You can either build a Win11 install image directly from microsoft that bypasses TPM requirement, MS Account requirements, etc. Or you can go the easier route and use Rufus to create the install packages from the standard Win11 install .iso. You can deselect any of these "requirements" prior to creating the install media (usb stick).BJ wrote: Wed Aug 20, 2025 12:51 amSo you're saying I can do a fresh install of Windows 11 even if my processor is not supported?vstdls wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 11:18 pmAm I shadow banned or something?BJ wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 2:57 pmSame here I still don’t see it. Hopefully by the end of August. You have to be logged in on a Microsoft account for it to work.MeanMrMustard wrote: Sun Aug 17, 2025 12:18 pmBJ wrote: Thu Aug 14, 2025 2:44 am Well... None of the ESU stuff is in my options eventhough I'm running the latest update, logged in on admin account with my Microsoft account and activated onedrive. I read theyre still rolling out the program until mid-august and that it doesn't show up for everyone yet.
Have the same problem, still have no options available to extend Win10. When will they be making this available for everyone ? My machine is far too old for 11 and I have no intention of buying a new pc when this one still works perfectly fine.
There is no such thing as a computer that is too old to run Windows 11.
I'm pulling in a rather large Windows update right now. Hope this is the ESU stuff. I'll deal with Windows 11 when I get a new PC.
Edit: still not the ESU stuff...
https://rufus.ie/en/
The "hardware requirement" is for in-place "upgrades" only.
https://rufus.ie/pics/screenshot4_en.png