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My cat scratches her claws on the cab, not the amp, I'll have you know

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YnJ wrote: Mon Aug 18, 2025 8:18 pm My cat scratches her claws on the cab, not the amp, I'll have you know
There was a point where I got the idea to keep my G&L in my living room and put a nice boutique amp next to it, for weekdays when I'm home along and can actually enjoy an amp, but I realized that my cats would just destroy it. There's really no room in my studio at this point, as it's so packed with stuff that all the aesthetics of it would be lost in the visual clutter. Maybe when my daughter goes away to college, I can commandeer her room for my studio and be able to stretch out a bit. Until then, that Carol-Ann or Dr. Z will have to wait.
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YnJ wrote: Mon Aug 18, 2025 7:55 pm Funny though, for some reason I took you for more of a hard rock or metal guy. Perhaps I'm just not aware of the subgenre of fingerpicking metal yet
Yes, lots of hard rock and metal, but also classical and flamenco. Making videos is really what made me go hard with finger picking, you have to play so clean when there isn't a backing track and I couldn't do it with a pick. I even have a guitar strung with flatwounds to reduce squeaks.

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YnJ wrote: Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:33 am
Naillerz78 wrote: Mon Aug 18, 2025 3:23 am There so much more a synth can do.. make your guitar sound like strings, piano, horns etc etc
This is probably a herecy, I have used a keyboard with a sampled acoustic guitar on a couple of recordings instead of a real acoustic guitar. Part laziness, part I can play things which are physically impossible on a real guitar. Please, don't hate me
That sounds awesome 8) :tu:
I am all about that kinda experimentation and expanding. The guitar has a fairly limited range tbh compared to like, a grand piano.

I remember tying to DIY learn Moonlight Sonata on the guitar, just using my ears in the standard tuning of Em (I think) or Dm .. I got a fair bit into ir but then quickly ran out of fingers and notes. Which annoyed me.
(It’s transposed to Am for guitar afaik)
I’d love to be able to play that in the original key with a G synth.

There’s a demo video of the Roland Guitar Synth on YT by an english Boss clinician guy. He does a really cool medley of pop tunes , movie and tv show soundtracks using the strings ,keys, synths and all the other cool sounds , very inspiring!

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YnJ wrote: Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:33 am
Naillerz78 wrote: Mon Aug 18, 2025 3:23 am There so much more a synth can do.. make your guitar sound like strings, piano, horns etc etc
This is probably a herecy, I have used a keyboard with a sampled acoustic guitar on a couple of recordings instead of a real acoustic guitar. Part laziness, part I can play things which are physically impossible on a real guitar. Please, don't hate me
I heard an expert praising a renouned performer/producer for a particular guitar part, but the player said, 'that's not a guitar, it's a clavinet we sent in to a Fairlight...'
That made me feel much better about my use someimes of Reaktor and other synths to mimic six-strings for the party :wink:

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Naillerz78 wrote: Mon Aug 18, 2025 8:53 am Just came across this video from my fave YT player Tommy B …
High praise indeed for the M9
I’m shocked :o



That’s immediately going on the must purchase list now :hyper: :tu:
I had one, sold it, and now I wish I hadn't. It was excellent. I heard updating it might be a problem as we advance, but I don't recall where I read that. Do your research,
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Never let an unneutered cat near an amp. Bad things happen, very bad things.
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tapper mike wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 3:34 am Never let an unneutered cat near an amp. Bad things happen, very bad things.
Better yet, never let an unneutered cat in your home. As soon as they’re old enough, get that crap removed.
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Naillerz78 wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 1:14 am
YnJ wrote: Mon Aug 18, 2025 9:33 am This is probably a herecy, I have used a keyboard with a sampled acoustic guitar on a couple of recordings instead of a real acoustic guitar. Part laziness, part I can play things which are physically impossible on a real guitar. Please, don't hate me
That sounds awesome 8) :tu:
I am all about that kinda experimentation and expanding. The guitar has a fairly limited range tbh
When I was young I tried hard to figure out how Talk Talk played the guitar solos on some of their tracks. Of course, they didn't use a guitar, they used a synth
I remember tying to DIY learn Moonlight Sonata on the guitar, just using my ears in the standard tuning of Em (I think) or Dm .. I got a fair bit into ir but then quickly ran out of fingers and notes. Which annoyed me.
(It’s transposed to Am for guitar afaik)
I’d love to be able to play that in the original key with a G synth
It's in C sharp minor. An arrangement for guitar would probably have some alterative tuning. I don't think you can play it on the guitar exactly as it is, even on the simple parts the left hand plays octaves, and there are some parts I think would be impossible to play on a guitar as they are written. I have only played it myself on piano though, not on a guitar

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Thats a nice key for piano. All black keys except the ones that differentiate it as being the natural minor.

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zerocrossing wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 5:29 am
tapper mike wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 3:34 am Never let an unneutered cat near an amp. Bad things happen, very bad things.
Better yet, never let an unneutered cat in your home. As soon as they’re old enough, get that crap removed.
It looked friendly alone and hungry. I figured somehow it lost it's family as it was no stranger to humans. Turned out all it wanted was a cat house to call it's own. Bring it's friends over and start a fight club.
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tapper mike wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 1:56 pm
zerocrossing wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 5:29 am
tapper mike wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 3:34 am Never let an unneutered cat near an amp. Bad things happen, very bad things.
Better yet, never let an unneutered cat in your home. As soon as they’re old enough, get that crap removed.
It looked friendly alone and hungry. I figured somehow it lost it's family as it was no stranger to humans. Turned out all it wanted was a cat house to call it's own. Bring it's friends over and start a fight club.
Your cat owns you.
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I have no cats currently and yes if I did they would. Also as soon as they were old enough they'd be fixed, get all their shots and have some tracking device on their collar.

I've witnessed my fair share of feral cats living the feral cat lifestyle in crawl spaces below tenement apartments and in abandoned barns. That's no type of environment for a kitten to be raised in.
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tapper mike wrote: Tue Aug 19, 2025 2:49 pm I have no cats currently and yes if I did they would. Also as soon as they were old enough they'd be fixed, get all their shots and have some tracking device on their collar.

I've witnessed my fair share of feral cats living the feral cat lifestyle in crawl spaces below tenement apartments and in abandoned barns. That's no type of environment for a kitten to be raised in.
I just came back from Hawaii and there were a lot of feral cats about, and they did not look healthy in any way. My daughter did the squat-pss-pss-pss-here-kitty move, and got no response. I had to explain to her that these cats were wild animals and probably carrying disease and parasites that we wouldn't want to bring home to Steve and Purrcillia. There were a few on the resort property, and I noticed an old couple going about and feeding them, which IMO, is really the worst thing you can do. Now you have a population that's reliant on you, and breeding as if the food source is guaranteed. The couple looked to be in their 70s, at the youngest. What happens to that cat population when they die? Local native bird populations are already threatened by them, as they are also threatened by the invasive mongoose population.

Anyway, to bring it around, I love cats, but as pets they need to be treated very differently than a wild animal, and they will destroy your stuff, amp cabinets included. What do people who use real amps do about this? I have a motion sensor activated air-can behind my TV so they don't jump up on my AV cabinet and start scratching my hi-fi speakers. I still have to hit him with a squirt gun (it's always Steve. STEVE! :lol:) to chase him away from the AV cabinet, because it contains a center speaker. He's become accustomed to that squirt gun, and I fear that I will have to soon escalate to a more powerful weapon. I guess I could encase it all in a lucite box and remove it while using it, but I'll stick to amp sims in the meantime.
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When I lived on Captiva Island in Florida the story was the same. Working at a resort. Cat's and racoons can mate and have ratcat babies. Fat feral cats would eat like kings with the local resorts and staff feeding them all the time. Momma cats would give birth right in the middle of the road and some tourist would run right over them as they were drunk and driving down roads without street lamps.
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