Roland D50 rip off on eBay

[Artmuzz]

Hi,

I have been bidding on a Roland D50 which was in poor condition and was expecting to win it on the bidding price of maximum £145. The sound cartridge did not work, the modulation wheel did not work properly, the side of the synth was smashed and a key was needing replaced also the display names and numbers were fading but I was just going to use it as a rack. Can you imagine my utter surprise and shock when I was outbidded and the final winning bid was £245. Another D50 which was on eBay last week went for the winning bid of £185 and that synth was in better condition and even had a flight case included.
I was wondering if the sellers on eBay could use another ID to put a bid up on their items so they get a better price? because I find this suspicious.
I am quite new to eBay but I certainly would not pay over £240 on a Roland D-50 in poor condition no matter how classic the synths are.


Artmuzz

[seamoss]

yes, it's possible somebody was stupid enough to pay that much for it.


yes, it's possible that a user can have another ID or possibly have friends that help bid up.


don't be surprised if you get an email stating that the highest bidder flaked out and he is willing to sell it to you for this ______ amount.

old ebay trick.


but again, it is possible that somebody paid that much for it.

[Stupid American Pig]

you never know man- I personally have found ebay to be overrun with fake auctions and accounts being hacked. IMHO ebay is in for rough times, as security is marginal at best. I have bid on several items and received emails from other members stating that the auction is fake.

Unfortunately, this could also be a purchasing tactic- where bidders who dont want the price to go up accuse the auction of being fraudulent in hopes that the bidders wont try to research it. I used to really think that ebay was a great idea, unfortunately the internet is a ghetto where fraud and scams are an easy and faceless crime.

Its a shame really. In regards to your issue, just because something sells for more than you would pay though , doesnt automatically mean its a fake...

[seamonkey]

I've bought a Roland Jd990,Waldorf XTK and Korg Prophecy and never had any problems but I used Buy it Now each time.
In fact the sellers were all quite nice to deal with and all items were packed extremely well and delivered in a timely manner.

Did you check the sellers reviews?This will usually give you a good idea as to the reputation of the seller.
I try to stay away from first time sellers unless they already have a good reputation as a buyer(the larger amount they have spent is much better than a record of small items).

I'm here in the US, perhaps it's a bit different over here.

BTW, I have a Roland D50 bought it brand new when they came out , my wife said she would divorce me if I ever sold it.

[topaz]

I tend to only use ebay for small items.

I certainly would NOT buy a synth without actually seeing it, playing it.

[Artmuzz]

Thanks for the replies.

I emailed the seller and he emailed me back telling me how surprised he was when he got home and seen that the winning bid was £245. He then told me that he is a bit suspicious aswell and if the winning bidder turns out to be a prankster then he will email with a second offer. If the winning bidder is genuine then the seller is one lucky guy.
The thing is if this winning bidder buys it then he is a bloody mug and an idiot with more money than sense as you can get the D550 for £152 in good condition in the States and Canada.


Artmuzz

[tommy.genes]

I think that people just get caught up in the bidding excitement and then don't think. I've seen items continue to be bid up when the exact same item was available for a lower Buy It Now price further down in the search list.

My somewhat-limited experience (12 transactions so far) has been positive, and I have bought some pricey items (>$1k in one case.) I had one not-perfect experience, but it was only for a $35 item.

-- T. G. --

[Alan]

yes, it's possible somebody was stupid enough to pay that much for it.

How much did that grilled cheese sandwich go for?

[x3em]

ebay is full of assholes and fraud.

I bought a "Fully functional" "no missing knobs or sliders" Juno-60 for 450$ last summer. It took forever to arrive and when I finally got it it was not working properly, and there was missing sliders (intakt package and no loose sliders in there). It was frankly in very poor condition. the seller washed his hands and said it wasn't his fault. and he said the only thing todo was to file a claim with the post office. So he filled in the paperwork and sent it to me. I had to play along, the post office claims department rejected the claim and they still have the juno. since it's broken I don't want it back and it would just be a reminder to me how some low life stole 450$ from me.

at some point he actaully sent me a email saying that he insured it up to 600 so I could claim that. WTF, fraud. I will have nothing todo with that.

bad karma has a way of biting back though. thiefs and fraudsters out there usually get what they deserve.

[meroveus]

So if someone outbids you on ebay, you've been ripped off?
That sooo makes sense.

[maximilians1]

I find that if the item is listed as shipping worldwide it usauly goes for higher prices, I've looked at some of the price U.K. resisdents ware willing to pay and it is ridiculous ,someone here said it is the land of ripoff (if you want to buy something). Being in Canada, i find I'm always paying more than the ship within lower 48 states auctions,oh well. I was shafted a little while ago on a Korg polysix purchase, the battery had leaked nad ruined the circut board,I should have known better considering its a common problem, the guy ended up giving me his poly61, not worth as much, but its a fun little board and I love the arpeggiator for laying down ostinato patterns for jamming with friends.

[Amberience]

ebay is full of assholes and fraud.

I bought a "Fully functional" "no missing knobs or sliders" Juno-60 for 450$ last summer. It took forever to arrive and when I finally got it it was not working properly, and there was missing sliders (intakt package and no loose sliders in there). It was frankly in very poor condition. the seller washed his hands and said it wasn't his fault. and he said the only thing todo was to file a claim with the post office. So he filled in the paperwork and sent it to me. I had to play along, the post office claims department rejected the claim and they still have the juno. since it's broken I don't want it back and it would just be a reminder to me how some low life stole 450$ from me.

at some point he actaully sent me a email saying that he insured it up to 600 so I could claim that. WTF, fraud. I will have nothing todo with that.

bad karma has a way of biting back though. thiefs and fraudsters out there usually get what they deserve.

Man that really blows

[Artmuzz]

So if someone outbids you on ebay, you've been ripped off?
That sooo makes sense.

No!! They have been ripped off.

£245 for a Roland D50 in poor condition
Ah well they must be idiots and have more money than sense.


Artmuzz

[whyterabbyt]

Artmuzz quoth
I emailed the seller and he emailed me back telling me how surprised he was when he got home and seen that the winning bid was £245. He then told me that he is a bit suspicious aswell and if the winning bidder turns out to be a prankster then he will email with a second offer.

If the 'offer' is more than your actual last bid, then seamoss may be right....

[xoxos]

if anyone in salt lake ever meets with the person behind the web store known as 'eurosynth' (used to do a fair amt of business)

hey took craig/99d over at dancetech for ~$1400 - the price of a new nord lead (back then) never delivered.

please make sure you take it from him. craig lives in syracuse and let it roll off 'cos he makes enuff' but it's not right.