Windows 10 Consumer Extended Security Updates (ESU) program

[lfm]

There is no such thing as a computer that is too old to run Windows 11.

Are you sure?

Yes. Please see my response to BJ above.

Not sure how that prooves anything if that computer actually run fine or not?
- how many BSOD are you getting or something else malfunctioning

Just installing something does not mean it runs fine IMO.

I think it was some wiki or somewhere else it was listed what instruction sets are introduced in a certain generation cpu's.
- if entire os build on using those instructions software may malfunction
- most software you run most probably are not limited to certain instructions sets unless they mandate Windows 10 or 11 or similar.

[Shabdahbriah]

There is no such thing as a computer that is too old to run Windows 11.

Are you sure?

Yes. Please see my response to BJ above.

Not sure how that prooves anything if that computer actually run fine or not?
- how many BSOD are you getting or something else malfunctioning

Just installing something does not mean it runs fine IMO.

I think it was some wiki or somewhere else it was listed what instruction sets are introduced in a certain generation cpu's.
- if entire os build on using those instructions software may malfunction
- most software you run most probably are not limited to certain instructions sets unless they mandate Windows 10 or 11 or similar.

Windows 11 version 24H2 enforces a strict requirement for SSE4.2 support on the CPU, meaning older processors without this instruction set will not be able to run this version. This is due to the operating system's reliance on SSE4.2 for critical functions and performance optimizations. Bypassing this requirement is generally not possible because it's a fundamental hardware feature that Windows 11 24H2 relies on

[vstdls]

There is no such thing as a computer that is too old to run Windows 11.

Are you sure?

Yes. Please see my response to BJ above.

Not sure how that prooves anything if that computer actually run fine or not?
- how many BSOD are you getting or something else malfunctioning

Just installing something does not mean it runs fine IMO.

I think it was some wiki or somewhere else it was listed what instruction sets are introduced in a certain generation cpu's.
- if entire os build on using those instructions software may malfunction
- most software you run most probably are not limited to certain instructions sets unless they mandate Windows 10 or 11 or similar.

Windows 11 version 24H2 enforces a strict requirement for SSE4.2 support on the CPU, meaning older processors without this instruction set will not be able to run this version. This is due to the operating system's reliance on SSE4.2 for critical functions and performance optimizations. Bypassing this requirement is generally not possible because it's a fundamental hardware feature that Windows 11 24H2 relies on

SSE4.2 is present in everything from 1st gen iseries processors and up. So, anything after 2008ish.

No BSOD. I run Win11 on 4th generation, 6th gens and up.

Do what you want, just don't listen to the "you can't do that!" Crowd.

Just wanted to save you time, stress, and money.

[metamorphosis]

The "hardware requirement" is for in-place "upgrades" only.

That is not correct.
Using a rufus-built installer on USB, you can do an in-place upgrade of *any* windows 10 computer to windows 11. Just make sure you deselect the option to download updates during the installation. I've done hundreds in my work. In my experience, only machines older than 2013 tend to have issues (and of course Core2s are no longer supported, due to the later requirement of the popcnt instruction set).

The TPM2 requirement was a shitty way to force people to buy new computers, because MS is in bed with the CPU manufacturers, both of which are struggling at the moment (hence recent government investment in Intel).

But Microsoft themselves had to have the option to disable it, because they have PC-manufacturer partners building new machines without TPM2 which needed to support Windows 11.

More info here:
https://computersupport.nz/articles/art ... ows_11.htm

[vstdls]

Awesome write up. Thanks for fleshing it all out. I've never tried an inplace upgrade with a Rufus-built installer. That's great news.

I didn't know an upgrade was available other than the annoying "your computer can upgrade now!" Pop-up thrown at users in Win10.

Moral of the story: use a Rufus-built installer.

[metamorphosis]

And of course there's no 32-bit version of windows 11, so if you're currently on win10 32-bit, you'd need to clean install
Though I've found win11 has gotten better at accepting windows 10 keys on clean installation, it's better to make a backup of the hard drive (using rescuezilla or similar) to an external drive, then do an upgrade installation when you can.
Very, very occasionally a win11 upgrade will fail and also fail to roll back properly, but that is rare.

[BJ]

Microsoft are sure taking their sweet time rolling this out. I might actually take my machine offline by October and record a classic album with out of date software. The lord works in mysterious ways.

[BJ]

Finally some movement. In my Windows 10 update window there's now a message. It says Windows 10 support will end October 14 etc and under it "Enrollment for Windows 10 Extended Security Updates will be available soon."

[BJ]

How are we all doing folks? I’m about to start up my audio PC on doomsday 14th still not expecting the sign up to be there…

edit: it worked and I'm signed up until next year

[Frantz]

ChatGPT provided me detailed instructions on how to enable secure boot and TPM in my BIOS. After that I was able to upgrade in place from Win10 to Win11 with no issues. ChatGPT worked well as "tech support" for this.