Sherman Filterbank plugin?

[aMUSEd]

https://ravegeneration.io/#Filterbank

is this a next generation of the Phuturetone one or a rip off? - it looks almost identical (except the price and it claims to have a Mac version) - no demo though

Apparently Mac version needs Rosetta - what a surprise!

[HcDoom]

https://ravegeneration.io/#Filterbank

is this a next generation of the Phuturetone one or a rip off? - it looks almost identical (except the price and it claims to have a Mac version) - no demo though

Apparently Mac version needs Rosetta - what a surprise!

Never heard of this developer before, no demo, only one sound example, no reviews and price of 130 eur. Big red flag.

[dayjob]

it's a hairy beast full of surprises.

Sounds like our cat.

this comparison is probably accurate on some level.

[ChamomileShark]

it's a hairy beast full of surprises.

Sounds like our cat.

this comparison is probably accurate on some level.

He even has an envelope follower (if you tie a peice of string to the envelope first).

[sin night]

The Sherman Filterbank is probably quite hard to emulate, there’s interaction between the controls, control bleeding in the audio path with certain settings… it’s not easy to control in a predictable way, let alone emulate…

On top of what’s avaible on the front panel, there are also a few things that can be done with midi…

Assuming someone can produce a proper sounding emulation (it seem a difficult task… and I wouldn’t expect any official approved emulation anyway, knowing what’s written in the manual), I would expect a lot of frustated users complaining.
The Filterbank is not a “big huge sweetspot device” like a Juno; I’m not a big user of this filter but when I use it I’m touching the controls quite often trying to the refine the sound, but it feels kind of a moving target…
Those who buy the hardware (which is not exactly “cheap”) know before hand they’ll have to deal with a difficult machine, I thought a lot before committing to the purchase… and yet some people give up an sell it. I’m not going to sell it, but sometimes I feel frustrated. Imagine what would happen with a reasonably priced plugin and the hype surrounding this filter… I’m not sure any software company would like to experience a huge amount of frustrated users, I think that’s another reason why there’s no proper emulation yet.

[geronimo]

Really well summarized .

[sunthief01]

Agreed. The filterbank initially came on my radar when cEvin key mentioned that he and Phil Western used it on their ambient-technoish album III - the distortion on tracks like Streaked has always been a favorite of mine - https://downloadband.bandcamp.com/album/iii?t=6

Someone mentioned that plugins like UVI Shade can get in the territory of the type of screaming oscillation you can hear on some of the drums in that track

However I've round that you need more than Shade to get the proper distortion. Almost like you need Coldfire and Shade in one plugin to get close

[HAL76]

Even one SFB sounds different and always different. The SFB is the opposite of software. Full of life, you're constantly experiencing surprises, and everything processed with the SFB sounds analog in the non-digital sense.

[zerocrossing]

...and everything processed with the SFB sounds analog in the non-digital sense.

I wonder if you had self awareness what you'd think of a sentence like this.

[HAL76]

...and everything processed with the SFB sounds analog in the non-digital sense.

I wonder if you had self awareness what you'd think of a sentence like this.

And I wonder if you have ever had the joy to really work with the FSB. Nothing digital will ever sound that way, it´s not even desired to.

[zerocrossing]

...and everything processed with the SFB sounds analog in the non-digital sense.

I wonder if you had self awareness what you'd think of a sentence like this.

And I wonder if you have ever had the joy to really work with the FSB. Nothing digital will ever sound that way, it´s not even desired to.

No, I do not spy for the Russians, and I take offense to the suggestion that I would, however, the Sherman Filterbank isn't any more complex than many other analog effects that have been modeled to a high degree of accuracy. Tube saturation has been modeled to a very high precision. Analog filters have been modeled to a very high precision. There's no reason that a SFB couldn't be modeled. It just hasn't yet. Maybe it never will, but that's probably due to it being a pretty neich piece of gear, than something technologically blocking it.

People like you are always going on about how some things will never be done as well as the original technology did it. People were forever saying that tube guitar gear could never be done digitally. Meanwhile, I found a free Tonex capture of a B. K. Butler Tube Driver that seems to be the exact settings that I run mine at, as it sounds identical. Why would I use a digital model of something I already own? The Tube Driver does not have presets, and it's very touchy and sensitive to tweak. It makes it hard to get back to a previous setting, but with Tonex, that setting is there forever and now I have access to a wide variety of tones from it without ever having to move a knob.

So, of course you're never really going to get the same experience with a plugin that you'd get with a knobby chunk of rack gear, but it could be very useful for people who need the repeatability of presets. In a digital sense.

[sunthief01]

Yeah I think its totally possible to appreciate something's unique analog character and sound signature AND to learn a lot from attempting to emulate it in a digital platform. And it might even get good enough someday to replicate or at least approximate the original. We've seen it so much in the last ten years with many other devices that "can not be emulated."

[Audiority]

I got one sitting here for a while and, yes, that's a beast to tame and understand.. even before you might want to try emulating it. That's not your usual SVF design and there are no schematics around, so good luck

[HcDoom]

I got one sitting here for a while and, yes, that's a beast to tame and understand.. even before you might want to try emulating it. That's not your usual SVF design and there are no schematics around, so good luck

Its quite a challenge. But, you can do it!

[El°HYM]

The SPL Vitalizer Mk3-T includes updated Tube Modeling.