Any auto-swell plugins like a Boss SG-1 Slow Gear?

[macrosound]

Ideally silicon native.

I know Boss has it as a plugin but I don't want to pay a subscription for it.

I found a Max For Live auto swell device but it doesn't seem to work with Ableton 12.

Any ideas?

This is for DI guitar.

[Sonic Illusions]

Freeware:
AutoSwell Light - Pecheneg FX
ATKAutoSwell - Matthieu Brucher

[GaryG]

I'd add musical entropys Guitar Gadgets, the Sideways module. Works slightly different to the Pecheneg one, re-triggering handled differently so good to have both for different playing styles etc.

https://www.musicalentropy.com/GuitarGadgets.html

[macrosound]

Are either of these silicon native? vst3 would be ideal too. I should have mentioned I use Cubase half the time. I'm trying to move to Ableton completely but not there yet.

[diroxe7660]

Wouldn't a very slow gate work just as well? I used to use ReaGate for this.

If your DAW supports LV2, there's the Guitarix suite of plugins and the GxSlowGear plugin specifically.

[CapnLockheed]

Fretted Synth's "Slow Beer" does this sort of thing and it's free:

https://plugins4free.com/plugin/3391/

[Ah_Dziz]

You could slap it together in a modular synth (grid, reaktor, vcv, etc) without much trouble. Getting good triggering would be the trickiest bit but shouldn't be too hard for most playing styles.

[zerocrossing]

You're a lot better off just using a MIDI controller foot pedal to control volume on whatever software you're using, or just buy a volume pedal. This way, no need to think about playing style and triggering. You are in control.

[macrosound]

You're a lot better off just using a MIDI controller foot pedal to control volume on whatever software you're using, or just buy a volume pedal. This way, no need to think about playing style and triggering. You are in control.

I already have a volume pedal for my guitar but I'm trying to slim down my pedalboard to a nano board. I have a nice Macbook and I figure I can move much of what I had on my bigger pedalboard to plugins. Phaser, reverb, and delay are covered (reverb and tape echo are going to sound better as plugins anyway).

[macrosound]

Ableton 12 only supports VST2/VST3. Cubase 14 only supports VST3. I can't use VST.

[zerocrossing]

You're a lot better off just using a MIDI controller foot pedal to control volume on whatever software you're using, or just buy a volume pedal. This way, no need to think about playing style and triggering. You are in control.

I already have a volume pedal for my guitar but I'm trying to slim down my pedalboard to a nano board. I have a nice Macbook and I figure I can move much of what I had on my bigger pedalboard to plugins. Phaser, reverb, and delay are covered (reverb and tape echo are going to sound better as plugins anyway).

I’ve trimmed my pedal board to a Butler Tube Drive, Blackstar HT-5 Dual, a heavily modified Cry Baby and the rest I do with plugins. Amplitube-Tonex is pretty amazing, and obviously anything can be put in front or after it.

[macrosound]

You're a lot better off just using a MIDI controller foot pedal to control volume on whatever software you're using, or just buy a volume pedal. This way, no need to think about playing style and triggering. You are in control.

I already have a volume pedal for my guitar but I'm trying to slim down my pedalboard to a nano board. I have a nice Macbook and I figure I can move much of what I had on my bigger pedalboard to plugins. Phaser, reverb, and delay are covered (reverb and tape echo are going to sound better as plugins anyway).

I’ve trimmed my pedal board to a Butler Tube Drive, Blackstar HT-5 Dual, a heavily modified Cry Baby and the rest I do with plugins. Amplitube-Tonex is pretty amazing, and obviously anything can be put in front or after it.

Yeah this is the way. I don't play live and if I did I have pedals to cover for that. At worst there are people who would let me borrow some. Mentioned it already but I can think of zero instances where a reverb pedal or tape echo pedal would beat the plugin versions (unless I had a spare EMT or Space Echo lying around but no convenience there). The pedals I use in this setup are mostly dirt pedals (2 fuzzes, 1 OD, ClinchFX EP Pre+) and a comp but that's just to keep me from overloading the DI because that doesn't sound good.

[zerocrossing]

You're a lot better off just using a MIDI controller foot pedal to control volume on whatever software you're using, or just buy a volume pedal. This way, no need to think about playing style and triggering. You are in control.

I already have a volume pedal for my guitar but I'm trying to slim down my pedalboard to a nano board. I have a nice Macbook and I figure I can move much of what I had on my bigger pedalboard to plugins. Phaser, reverb, and delay are covered (reverb and tape echo are going to sound better as plugins anyway).

I’ve trimmed my pedal board to a Butler Tube Drive, Blackstar HT-5 Dual, a heavily modified Cry Baby and the rest I do with plugins. Amplitube-Tonex is pretty amazing, and obviously anything can be put in front or after it.

Yeah this is the way. I don't play live and if I did I have pedals to cover for that. At worst there are people who would let me borrow some. Mentioned it already but I can think of zero instances where a reverb pedal or tape echo pedal would beat the plugin versions (unless I had a spare EMT or Space Echo lying around but no convenience there). The pedals I use in this setup are mostly dirt pedals (2 fuzzes, 1 OD, ClinchFX EP Pre+) and a comp but that's just to keep me from overloading the DI because that doesn't sound good.

I'm really happy with plugins these days, and the Tonex library is full of so many gems, it's crazy. That said, I thought it would be fun to put together a very performance oriented pedal board. I bought a bunch of cool stuff from Gamechanger, Walrus, Electro-Harmonix, etc. It all went back. The only thing I felt it got me that I wasn't getting was noise. I exchanged it for a Line6 HX Stomp XL, so I could pare it with a db Instruments 4e Dual Axis control pedal which lets me control 2 parameters (or sets of parameters) independently with one foot. I just use it for messing about, doing ambient and experimental stuff, but it's fun.


I keep the Tube Driver and the HT-5 because they sound good and are pretty unique sounding. The Tube Driver is especially bonkers. It takes a lot of tweaking to find a sweet spot, but when you get it, it's great. Do they give me some "tube magic?" Maybe. I mostly got the Cry Baby because there's an unresolved bug in Amplitube that it seems like they'll never fix, where the wah models all have zipper noise that's pretty audible if they're in front of anything other than a super clean amp. I could use a wah plugin, but I figured it would also be nice to have something that was always there with an instant on access.

[macrosound]

You're a lot better off just using a MIDI controller foot pedal to control volume on whatever software you're using, or just buy a volume pedal. This way, no need to think about playing style and triggering. You are in control.

I already have a volume pedal for my guitar but I'm trying to slim down my pedalboard to a nano board. I have a nice Macbook and I figure I can move much of what I had on my bigger pedalboard to plugins. Phaser, reverb, and delay are covered (reverb and tape echo are going to sound better as plugins anyway).

I’ve trimmed my pedal board to a Butler Tube Drive, Blackstar HT-5 Dual, a heavily modified Cry Baby and the rest I do with plugins. Amplitube-Tonex is pretty amazing, and obviously anything can be put in front or after it.

Yeah this is the way. I don't play live and if I did I have pedals to cover for that. At worst there are people who would let me borrow some. Mentioned it already but I can think of zero instances where a reverb pedal or tape echo pedal would beat the plugin versions (unless I had a spare EMT or Space Echo lying around but no convenience there). The pedals I use in this setup are mostly dirt pedals (2 fuzzes, 1 OD, ClinchFX EP Pre+) and a comp but that's just to keep me from overloading the DI because that doesn't sound good.

I'm really happy with plugins these days, and the Tonex library is full of so many gems, it's crazy. That said, I thought it would be fun to put together a very performance oriented pedal board. I bought a bunch of cool stuff from Gamechanger, Walrus, Electro-Harmonix, etc. It all went back. The only thing I felt it got me that I wasn't getting was noise. I exchanged it for a Line6 HX Stomp XL, so I could pare it with a db Instruments 4e Dual Axis control pedal which lets me control 2 parameters (or sets of parameters) independently with one foot. I just use it for messing about, doing ambient and experimental stuff, but it's fun.


I keep the Tube Driver and the HT-5 because they sound good and are pretty unique sounding. The Tube Driver is especially bonkers. It takes a lot of tweaking to find a sweet spot, but when you get it, it's great. Do they give me some "tube magic?" Maybe. I mostly got the Cry Baby because there's an unresolved bug in Amplitube that it seems like they'll never fix, where the wah models all have zipper noise that's pretty audible if they're in front of anything other than a super clean amp. I could use a wah plugin, but I figured it would also be nice to have something that was always there with an instant on access.

For sure. Gamechanger makes great stuff. I almost got their reverb pedal but had realized I was going to end up in my current situation. I also realized I made better music when I had a smaller board (when I was just getting into pedals) which is why I'm after the 'minimalism' now.

I forgot to mention I use an Xotic wah. I put it after overdrive and fuzz and before compression so it would be hard for me to do that with plugins anyway. The Tube Driver seems cool. Do you use it as low gain, high gain or pretty much everything? I'm surprisingly content with my Nobels ODR Mini 2. I got rid of a Barber Gainchanger because of it.

Fazortran 2 takes care of phaser stuff for me and for now I use just stock plugins and the free Valahalla flanger for flanger sounds although I'd really like something that sounds like a Boss HF-2.

I thought about the Line 6 Helix Stomp (non XL). I have Helix Native and I like the amp sounds. I have Tonex too and I kind of use them all for different things.

[foosnark]

Mentioned it already but I can think of zero instances where a reverb pedal or tape echo pedal would beat the plugin versions (unless I had a spare EMT or Space Echo lying around but no convenience there). The pedals I use in this setup are mostly dirt pedals (2 fuzzes, 1 OD, ClinchFX EP Pre+) and a comp but that's just to keep me from overloading the DI because that doesn't sound good.

I'm the other way, all my pedals are reverbs, for their unique character and quirks. (Walrus Slöer, OBNE Dark Star V3, and hopefully about to ship, Pedal Partners Mesmeriser.)

I do have several reverb plugins I love, but I've found Slöer a delight. Dark Star is sort of a combination of what would be just okay reverb, but the feedback, distortion/bitcrushing and lo-fi janky pitch shifting transform it. I'm pretty excited about Mesmerizer, the demo videos I've watched sound gorgeous and right up my alley.

I'm not a guitarist though. I do play a little bass but heavily processed. Mostly I'm using my pedals with synths.