FL5 vs FL4

[Carbonboy]

I was so damn used to FL4.
It had some limitation, but with a clever use of it one could avoid this limitations.
I know FL5 is much more flexible, but I just can't get in touch with it.
Besides, it's full of annoying bugs.

My question is: is there something I can do with 5 and cannot do with 4?

Are you serious???

From the What's New .doc

5.0.1 (20/12/04)

Fixed 'Add pitch to key' for plugins.
Fixed crashing bug in Fruity Granulizer.
Fixed 2 minor bugs in Sytrus.
Fixed problem with MIDI input in FL VSTi versions.
Fixed little problem after dismissing the piano roll note properties box.
Fixed disabled automation clips processed when relocating the song.
Disabled looping for sample preview in browser (too many bad loop points in samples out there).
Auto-scrolling doesn't switch off anymore when editing and the song is not playing.
Fixed problems with dual monitors: FL can now be maximized on second monitor and will remember the monitor it's on when maximized.
Fixed little playlist shortcut problem.
Added option to detach playlist, piano roll and event editors from the working area (can be maximized on a second monitor).
Changed the default wallpaper to a newbie one.
Newbie enhancement: MIDI settings window doesn't show up anymore to let the user select a MIDI input device.
Newbie enhancement: "Enable MIDI input/output" switches itself on when you select MIDI devices.

5.0 (20/11/04)
New automation clips in playlist.
New powerful arpeggiator tool in piano roll.
New Fruity WaveShaper effect plugin.
New option to render audio files with slice markers (regions) built-in (regions are defined as beat markers for Adobe Audition).
Fruity Slicer now gets slices from audio file cue points as well (as well as trigger key #).
Much improved Fruity Slicer, with stretching and REX loops support, and enhanced fill gaps.
New 'make unique' option for audio clips to sever parts.
New time-stretching and pitch-shifting in audio tracks (with several modes, including the Elastique engine).
Tempo-synced preview of stretched samples.
Added author & genre to song properties, saved inside WAV files and MP3 tags.
Added tempo detector to audio tracks to align project tempo to song clips.
New drum flam tool in piano roll.
DrumSynth Live now supports 120 patches.
Enhanced Fruity Granulizer with transient-alignment and new skin.
Audio recording can now be undone, and mixer track arming button can be right-clicked not to prompt for a filename.
Added note legato and articulation tool in piano roll.
Basic loop recording.
Added tempo tapping feature.
New FPC drumkit plugin.
New Collab tool to work on shared projects.
Added better automation smoothing to MIDI remote control (knob works as 1 pole or 3 poles).
Can now load MP3's into sampler channels and audio clips.
Setting for steps per beat now adjust tempo as well (no need for tempo-doubling tricks anymore).
Fruity Slicer note dumping is now done in piano roll selection (if any).
New slicing engine in Fruity Slicer and FL (audio clips).
Stacked notes in piano roll randomizer now work better.
Made brush default tool in event editor.
Little bugfix for monophonic mode in step sequencer.
Restyled Fruity HTML NoteBook plugin.
Background wallpaper can now be HTML pages.
Bugfix in Sytrus (making it a little faster).
Added copy/paste preset to Sytrus, to share presets between all plugin versions of it.
Added global envelope mode to Sytrus (version 1.2), for perfect gated presets.
Fixed crash when deleting MIDI out channels sometimes.
Song markers now properly stored in rendered waves even with tempo changes.
Fixed memory leak in Fruity Slicer plugin.
Updated drum list in the MIDI out plugin to the GM2 standard.
Made channel resampling option always enabled.
'Keep on disk' samples can now be modified (loaded from disk when needed).
Can now check 'keep on disk', 'resample' & other options even when not possible.
Newbie enhancement: snapping is off by default.
Can now drop samples onto the channel settings window.
Preview now only loads the few first seconds (for MP3's to preview faster).
XY controller now supports multiple joysticks.
Right-clicking the recording disk to arm a mixer track won't prompt for a filename.
Added option not to auto-unarm mixer tracks.
Selecting an ASIO input now arms the mixer track automatically.
Added option to trim audio clip parts outside playlist selection.
Auto-envelope cleaning in step edit mode in Sytrus & Fruity Waveshaper envelopes.
Remove transposing from quantization tool - quantization scores can now safely contain notes other than C5.
Toolbars can now be locked.
Replace 'Ignore velocity' option by 'Velocity link', to control per-note filter using velocity.
Can now shift+click note events to unselect them.
Can now set one of the external audio editors to replace the default one.
Added support for Hercules DJ Console (when set in MIDI mode, endless knobs, coupled switches, special switches & middle jog work).
Added sampler interpolation method selector for realtime playback (audio settings).
Removed obsolete 1..9 pattern selector.
FST and FSC file extensions are now associated with the app (and loaded in new channels).
Auto-scrolling switch now in the main part of the UI, and auto-disabled.
Song selection now shown in the transport slider as well.
Minor cosmetic changes and new wallpapers.
Shift disables 'typing keyboard to piano' feature, handy to access shortcuts such as R for record.
BkSp shortcut for quick snap switch.
Fixed problem with incoming MIDI note off messages too quickly after note on.
Minor fix in Fruity Vocoder.
Removed (abused) live loop, in favor of Collab.


Carb.

[Cabinfever]

And how much did that cost all us users again ?

$0

[Carbonboy]

And how much did that cost all us users again ?

$0

Perfect point...! This sort of update FOR FREE is the exact reason I can't understand how people can complain. Other companies will charge you $300 to fix BUGS that were THEIR FAULT in the first place.

Get real people...think about what IL is giving you before opening your mouth.

Carb.

[Amberience]

A shit program with shit a workflow??

[Sicklecell666]

A flowshit with program work??

[ouroboros]

And how much did that cost all us users again ?

$0

yes, indeed.

[atomic_(no)afro]

To answer Death Adder's original question. Yes, there are some cool things that can be done with version 5 that 4 couldn't do. The most obvious being the improved audio engine, now with all sorts of cool parameters for the audio track and sampler generators. For those who are into sound design/sample manipulation, FL Studio is now a premiere tool for warping simple samples into complex evolving soundscapes and bizarre drum hits. Take the standard set of drum sounds, and alter the stretch parameters. Along with pogo, fade in/out, and the normalize function, the stretch facilities in 5 can change the sound in ways that most samplers, especially those devoted to drums, cannot.

ATA

That's pretty interesting. Could you please elaborate on what you might do with a sample and what parameters might be involved in the sampler channel.

I plan on putting together a tutorial about maximizing FLStudio's drum sample warping features in a few weeks. Stay tuned!

[hitman8081]

not acuseing anyone of being warez kiddies but imo people who complain about bugs over and over in an otherwise very stable program arent using the latest version...

[Left Headphone]

A shit program with shit a workflow??

I have to agree.
The mixer is the worst part of FLS to me.

Faders that go from 0% to 125% is not very practical- db's are more common.

The audio section needs track numbers.

It needs 24bit recording- yes I said it and I know Gol hates this...32bit gives you extra headroom but you sacrifice valuable HD space. I know HD's a cheap, but I'm broke.

The FLS Wrapper that want resize is worst than the mixer. Try using Ozone in FLS on a 15inch LCD. Change the resolution you say. I say no thanks. I want to end you blind like some of my favorite Classical composers.

God bless you FLS users. I have seen the light and it looks like Sonar 4PE!

[Collusion]

It needs 24bit recording- yes I said it and I know Gol hates this...32bit gives you extra headroom but you sacrifice valuable HD space. I know HD's a cheap, but I'm broke.

If memory serves, 24 bit recordings are stored as 32 bit files on hard disk no matter which program you use.

[Left Headphone]

It needs 24bit recording- yes I said it and I know Gol hates this...32bit gives you extra headroom but you sacrifice valuable HD space. I know HD's a cheap, but I'm broke.

If memory serves, 24 bit recordings are stored as 32 bit files on hard disk no matter which program you use.

My 24 bit files say 24 bit when I click on properties. My OS is XP.

[ouroboros]

I plan on putting together a tutorial about maximizing FLStudio's drum sample warping features in a few weeks. Stay tuned!

I am definitely looking forward to this!

[Ian B]

The new drum module is really bad compared to DR008 and Battery (which I also own), so I don't have a use for it.

Yeah, FLC isn't up to those two, but it does a nice job all the same. Just curious here, have you tried Corpse Thrower's HUGE FPC KIT OF DEATH! A very nice 4xmulti sampled Tama kit, it shows FLC at it's best You get the samples so it's easy enough to create your own DR008/Battery kit. Just do a search for it in the Looptalk forum, well worth the effort imo.

[kode_poet]

Now with the envelopes, I've found sequencer nirvana. I even sold my copy of SX. Aint that something?

P.S. My FL Instalation is rock solid. No crashes whatsoever. I'm on WinXP SP2.

[Collusion]

It needs 24bit recording- yes I said it and I know Gol hates this...32bit gives you extra headroom but you sacrifice valuable HD space. I know HD's a cheap, but I'm broke.

If memory serves, 24 bit recordings are stored as 32 bit files on hard disk no matter which program you use.

My 24 bit files say 24 bit when I click on properties. My OS is XP.

The page of information showing the audio file's bit depth in the Properties page concerns the contents of the file, not the manner in which it is stored.