Studio One 7.2

[Vocalpoint Studios]

I don't think this is a fair take on S1. I use Ableton Suite and bounce stems to then mix and mess around in S1 and the new 7.2.2 is really nice IMO. I have used it from version 1 and having both seem to to really help my workflow.

Well - when you are specifically told (and then asked to back up $$$) a new annual updates plan - and then told that the reason for that plan - was to get "MAJOR new features into your hands - faster" (quoting directly from that video I linked) and then those "major" updates fail to materialize - you can see why some of us - feel a bit slighted.

Now - I like v7.2.2 just as much as the next guy - but I can't imagine ANY S1 user dropping $149.00 this past year and thinking what they got for it since Oct 10, 2024 has been earthshaking or game changing in any way.

I guess I fondly look back to the v4, v5 and v6 days of S1 where Presonus would roll out something boring like a "6.1.2" release - which would appear to be just bug fixes on the surface - but would actually have 10 new features thrown in for good measure.

Each to their own - but the v7 cycle has been a dud - plain and simple - espeically when the launch of v7.0 had so much promise.

I still cannot believe it's been a whole year and not a single line of code for the Launcher has been changed.

VP

[THE INTRANCER]

I don't even like the sound of the new romplers.

[thebutler]

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[Bowsy]

There's no way anything big comes out before Oct 9th, they want your subscription licence to expire first so they can get another $149.

If anything they will hold back on it to just after and before BF so they don't have to offer bigger discounts. A lot of people hold out for a nice price reduction only to have a major update etc drop just before BF to fix the discount price lower than people expected.

[Digivolt]

It's fair enough complaining about the lack of meat in these updates, definitely not great value proposition going from 6 to 7 unlike myself who went from 5 to 7 or others going from even lower versions to 7, but, what would you want to see in updates that would make you happy and think "yeah that's a major update" ?

Personally I'd like to see the midi plugin PDC issue fixed and better modulation options like what Cubase added with the modulators

[SLiC]

Once thing is for sure, the competition has certainly upped their game lately., Bitwig and Live for example have excellent and frequent updates (and Live is particularly good value as all included with the version licence...old school!)

If Bitwig or Live added ARA I probably wouldn't bother with S1 much.

[Vocalpoint Studios]

But, what would you want to see in updates that would make you happy and think "yeah that's a major update" ?

Well - one could take an hour and half to read the changelog from that last Ableton update (12.2?) that was about 10 pages long - I am sure something in there would jog a few "update" braincells for Presonus.

One thing right off the top of my head - is their concept of song templates. Way back in the v5/v6 days - they went to all that trouble to make that fancy Start box where you pick a "saved" template and get going fast. Too bad that every template still needs to have it's location adjusted, it's Customization adjusted and my biggest one - the bloody macro toolbar that you loaded last session - will NOT save as part of any template.

I have at least 12-15 macro toolbars - ALL of them specific to a song template and I spend more time resetting a loaded song template to the "right" macro bar - when it could just be saved with the template and be done with it.

VP

[noremorze]

I hoped that they would prove me wrong, but sadly it turned out as I expected. Pay more for far less.

[J Veronica]

V6 is pretty much all I need. I don't use loops or samples so V7 has been an easy skip.

If I had to name features I want:

Per plugin Oversampling (like Reaper)
Change waveform colors (like Cubase)
Open any plugin in dual mono (Logic)
Dedicated insert slots (Pro Tools)
Plugin parameter link (Pro Tools?)

[Vocalpoint Studios]

I don't even like the sound of the new romplers.

These - should not even be mentioned next to the word "new".

I cannot imagine anyone being excited about any of these.

VP

[apoclypse]

It's fair enough complaining about the lack of meat in these updates, definitely not great value proposition going from 6 to 7 unlike myself who went from 5 to 7 or others going from even lower versions to 7, but, what would you want to see in updates that would make you happy and think "yeah that's a major update" ?

Personally I'd like to see the midi plugin PDC issue fixed and better modulation options like what Cubase added with the modulators

I feel like they should focus on the main DAW and leave plugins to the pros which is what they used to do before the sub thing. There are lot of things they can take a look at like automation needds to be looked at, it hasn't had a significant overhaul in years. More/Better hardware integration would be nice. I feel like a well documented scripting language would suffice for the community. Stability is still a major issue with S1. Version 7 is the crashiest its been in a long time for me. More timestretchign algos would be nice. Better tempo mapping. The browser needs some real love, no splice integration isn't what I want. I have a very large sample library already, I just want an easier to way to get to the content I already own. Right now I'm using the free ADSR Sample Manager when I use S1. Updated MPE workflow.

Other than that S1 is very feature packed/complete imo. There isn't much I want out of it other than better peformance, nicer/easier way of working, keep that frills (plugins and whatnot) to yourself.

[Vocalpoint Studios]

The browser needs some real love, no splice integration isn't what I want. I have a very large sample library already, I just want an easier to way to get to the content I already own. Right now I'm using the free ADSR Sample Manager when I use S1.

This.

VP

[thievedletter]

Presonus has basically completely given up as far as I can tell.

If these first two point releases are considered "major"

I mean, my god... They acted like adding a guitar preset to a chromatic tuner was an amazing update!

This is unfolding exactly how I said it would. At the time I was told I was "too negative" and removed from Presonus user groups.

Why anyone would subscribe to something that had 2 updates in a year, just doesn't make any sense.

I started on Studio One version 3, when Cakewalk collapsed. Version 7 has been the most lackluster offering yet, by a massive margin.

Also, those new romplers they gave us are an absolute joke. Who asked for that? It's basically just 3 versions of the exact same instrument with different samples and they are pretty bad. Talk about a slow trickle of nothing.

[Fidelitymusic]

The Browser is definitely my biggest issue. No tags, no favorites, etc.

Scrolling with the mouse wheel in general, but especially in the Browser, is horribly slow on Windows, never had that issue on macOS. I have a large sample library myself.

They also need to have an option to prevent moving folders or samples in the Browser, a locked state. I've accidentally moved a plugin folder into another a few times and get frequent prompts to relocate a sample to another location when quickly cycling through items in the Browser.

[andypryce]

what would you want to see in updates that would make you happy and think "yeah that's a major update" ?

I believe It is not this or that feature but something substantial.
As you mentioned if we had seen modulators like Cubase, Bitwig etc that would be a major feature or overhaul of Automation like how they improved IN Bitwig Studio 6, improved Browser like Ableton did etc.
More importantly come up with features that we did not think of but make us think how did we do without that. They used to do this. Transform to Audio/Back to Midi even after edit being one of them. Or native polyphonic pitch editing.

I do not count Romplers or Tuner plugin improvements or Jazz Fonts as major features.