U-he Zebra 3 (Alpha)

[Seen-it-all-twice]

i rather just want to buy 3 sounds, or 5, or 10 and pay you said 20 or 30.- bucks for those

Why not spend an hour instead to make your own? It's a synth.

[hhal9000]

I accept this request might be rather late,but are there any plans for having the ability to control the gain of a sequencer such that the rythmic ''quality'' could be brought in and out of a patch over time rather than just on and off?I know this can be achieved through any DAW through midi automation but having this function within a single synth would be so much more elegant and save on the resources of multiple instances of a synth with the same patch.

[cake builder]

I accept this request might be rather late,but are there any plans for having the ability to control the gain of a sequencer such that the rythmic ''quality'' could be brought in and out of a patch over time rather than just on and off?I know this can be achieved through any DAW through midi automation but having this function within a single synth would be so much more elegant and save on the resources of multiple instances of a synth with the same patch.

I'm certain what you're asking for will be achievable, probably through assigning an auxiliary source to your modulation in the mod matrix.

[DrGonzo]

few "Good" Sounds, rather than 200.

The problem is that your "good sounds" are often disliked by someone else. Many sound developers cast a wide net to make sure everybody gets their dose of inspiration. I have customers who basically buy my collections only for the sequences. Others wouldn't touch the sequences with a stick!

The solution is maybe to break up larger soundsets into smaller more dedicated micropacks.

/Carl

[Puduku]

few "Good" Sounds, rather than 200.

The problem is that your "good sounds" are often disliked by someone else. Many sound developers cast a wide net to make sure everybody gets their dose of inspiration. I have customers who basically buy my collections only for the sequences. Others wouldn't touch the sequences with a stick!

The solution is maybe to break up larger soundsets into smaller more dedicated micropacks.

/Carl

Very true. Sequences and any pre-defined evolving arpegiators presets are like garbage to me, most of the time I don’t even listen to them. I buy a lot of soundsets on a regular basis, but ARP and SEQ are invisible to me : too much time is needed to reverse-engineer them by unactivating everything self-moving only to discover that the base sound is meh in the end.
I simply want nothing to move in my projects without my consent, period.

[MrJubbly]

few "Good" Sounds, rather than 200.

The problem is that your "good sounds" are often disliked by someone else. Many sound developers cast a wide net to make sure everybody gets their dose of inspiration. I have customers who basically buy my collections only for the sequences. Others wouldn't touch the sequences with a stick!

The solution is maybe to break up larger soundsets into smaller more dedicated micropacks.

/Carl

Very true. Sequences and any pre-defined evolving arpegiators presets are like garbage to me, most of the time I don’t even listen to them. I buy a lot of soundsets on a regular basis, but ARP and SEQ are invisible to me : too much time is needed to reverse-engineer them by unactivating everything self-moving only to discover that the base sound is meh in the end.
I simply want nothing to move in my projects without my consent, period.

I wholeheartedly agree. I really don't like using patches reprogrammed with Arps / Sequences.

I enjoy composing every note of my projects myself. Anything less, feels like cheating and copying somebody else's work.

For similar reasons, I also rarely use samples, and if I do, they are always one shots. I never use samples sequences or drum loops.

I hope the factory presets for Z3 lean heavier towards great-sounding and creative single instrument/percussion based presets, rather than preprogrammed sequences.

[Urs]

We'll have both - many, many playable sounds, as well as quite a few sequences, one-note-soundscapes and anything in-between.

One of the reasons to add sequences is that while many people won't use any such sequences or rhythms themselves, it's totally valid to create one's own grooves and patterns. In such case the sequences we add provide a showcase as to what different techniques and possibilities there are.

Note that Zebra 3 initially neither has a sequencer nor an arpeggiator. But the means within the voice structure are so flexible that some sound designers have created rather complex loops and arrangements.

[Funky40]

Sounds like the right thing to do.

While i personally don´t look for sequenced sounds, just plucky "piano-alike" sounds, do i totally enjoy to play sometimes with these sequenzer sounds. Some sounddesigners are capable off to create real gems. i DO enjoy these alots. There are alots of sounds i can enjoy alots for a moment, while it was not what i was looking for.
What i personally totally dislike is a sound-preset flood, and then most of it even just mediocore.

[mutagen]

Yeah I don't generally reach for sequences and have definitely turned off the sequencer to get at the raw sound. At times though I'm finding some inspiration or at least interest in the musicality and harmonic that they choose at times though.

[surreal]

I love seqencers and arps in synths and soundsets!

It often is the deciding factor in me making a purchase or not!

[buffalo roam]

I love seqencers and arps in synths and soundsets!

It often is the deciding factor in me making a purchase or not!

I agree with this. But Urs has pointed out a "mod mapping" feature in the upcoming Z3, also in the new Uhbik effects bundle, that should be able to handle rhythmic and maybe also sequencing needs. I haven't figured out how to use it for rhythmic purposes in the new Uhbik products, because I don't see a "sync" function tied with different speeds (1/8, 1/16, etc.). We'll see how it manifests in Z3!

[coroknight]

I love seqencers and arps in synths and soundsets!

It often is the deciding factor in me making a purchase or not!

Do you really need an arp or sequencer in every synth though? Why?

[Puduku]

I love seqencers and arps in synths and soundsets!

It often is the deciding factor in me making a purchase or not!

Do you really need an arp or sequencer in every synth though? Why?

Man, if you take this route, many things aren’t needed that much... No need for a delay, a reverb, a chorus or a compressor : any DAW features some.
And I’m the one who was saying a few posts above I never use any in my synths...
The more features, the best... even if they’re not all made for you. Some day anybody may need any of those.

[DrGonzo]

Man, if you take this route, many things aren’t needed that much... No need for a delay, a reverb, a chorus or a compressor : any DAW features some.

I think it's just a fundamentally different way of thinking of synthesis. Some people just want the bare minimum. Oscillators, envelopes, filters. No arpeggiators or sequencers, or even effects - those things should (according to them) be dealt with in the DAW. While others feel like any additional feature in the synth opens up new sound design possibilities.

I much prefer the latter as it saves in a preset and can easily be recalled. If you don't like arpeggiators or reverbs in your synths - you don't have to use them, no?

/C

[Puduku]

Man, if you take this route, many things aren’t needed that much... No need for a delay, a reverb, a chorus or a compressor : any DAW features some.

I think it's just a fundamentally different way of thinking of synthesis. Some people just want the bare minimum. Oscillators, envelopes, filters. No arpeggiators or sequencers, or even effects - those things should (according to them) be dealt with in the DAW. While others feel like any additional feature in the synth opens up new sound design possibilities.

I much prefer the latter as it saves in a preset and can easily be recalled. If you don't like arpeggiators or reverbs in your synths - you don't have to use them, no?

/C

Sure. You may never need a third seat belt for the back passengers of your car. But you also may need one some day. I tend to think that there’s no feature to "dislike" really in your synth. Use it or not. There’s more to dislike when it’s not there and you need it.

As far as I’m concerned I rarely use internal DSP processing such as reverb and delay, because I very often treat dynamics and transients with external plugins (reverb wouldn’t shine much)... Other, such as you, do.

We need everything we can have. There would be complaints from half of the crowd for every single feature missing.

I fully agree with you as you see, as I’m using the minimum myself but think it would be an endless mess of disappointed users requests for every single lacking feature if any new synth travelled through a minimal path. Would look half-baked also in a crowded market, uncompetitive.

In a few words : try and please as many people as possible when it comes to features I believe.