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Iernesto77 wrote: Sun Sep 07, 2025 2:01 pm I understand but it's not nice that Studio One is the only DAW that has fallen off that list.
Dude - you need to relax. And stop worrying.

FWIW - no one on the NI forums is even talking about this new firmware anymore. It was a thing for about 15 minutes - about a month ago.

Now it's just another release...users have moved on to something else now.

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But have you seen the Native forum regarding the Kontrol MK3 or the number of videos from other users? It adds a very relevant additional feature for users of these keyboards and DAWs. I'm relaxed; I'm just expressing an opinion and my thoughts. I don't think I'm offending anyone. I also think it's a perfectly valid topic to address in this thread. Of course, nothing is certain, and I'll be happy to see what PreSonus offers in the new version.

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Iernesto77 wrote: Sun Sep 07, 2025 3:09 pm But have you seen the Native forum regarding the Kontrol MK3 or the number of videos from other users? It adds a very relevant additional feature for users of these keyboards and DAWs.
Yes - I visit very regularly. But nothing that firmware brings is required to make good music - like right now - in Studio One.
Iernesto77 wrote: Sun Sep 07, 2025 3:09 pm I'm relaxed; I'm just expressing an opinion and my thoughts. I don't think I'm offending anyone. I also think it's a perfectly valid topic to address in this thread. Of course, nothing is certain, and I'll be happy to see what PreSonus offers in the new version.
And your opinion is fine. And no - you are not offending anyone.

But you do appear to be freaked out over the fact that some summer student at NI removed some S1 text from a list - and are trying to paint it as some sort of national emergency for Studio One users.

Have you ever considered that maybe S1 was removed from this list - because this firmware was successfully tested (on August 15th) by NI themselves and found to operate normally?

Everything in 2.05 works fine - except the fancy XML scripting work that Presonus has to add to S1 to allow it to do all the fancy stuff that this firmware allows. (like controlling third party plugins).

Presonus and NI have a great relationship and we do have an S1 update coming soon - hopefully it all comes together at that time.

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Vocalpoint Studios wrote: Sun Sep 07, 2025 3:24 pm
Iernesto77 wrote: Sun Sep 07, 2025 3:09 pm But have you seen the Native forum regarding the Kontrol MK3 or the number of videos from other users? It adds a very relevant additional feature for users of these keyboards and DAWs.
Yes - I visit very regularly. But nothing that firmware brings is required to make good music - like right now - in Studio One.
Iernesto77 wrote: Sun Sep 07, 2025 3:09 pm I'm relaxed; I'm just expressing an opinion and my thoughts. I don't think I'm offending anyone. I also think it's a perfectly valid topic to address in this thread. Of course, nothing is certain, and I'll be happy to see what PreSonus offers in the new version.
And your opinion is fine. And no - you are not offending anyone.

But you do appear to be freaked out over the fact that some summer student at NI removed some S1 text from a list - and are trying to paint it as some sort of national emergency for Studio One users.

Have you ever considered that maybe S1 was removed from this list - because this firmware was successfully tested (on August 15th) by NI themselves and found to operate normally?

Everything in 2.05 works fine - except the fancy XML scripting work that Presonus has to add to S1 to allow it to do all the fancy stuff that this firmware allows. (like controlling third party plugins).

Presonus and NI have a great relationship and we do have an S1 update coming soon - hopefully it all comes together at that time.

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Thank you for ignoring my tendency toward drama and thank you for your contributions.I'll keep an eye in the near future.

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What what? S1 already supports Kontrol MK3 2.0 firmware? Where can I download that version?

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ffx wrote: Sun Sep 07, 2025 6:44 pm What what? S1 already supports Kontrol MK3 2.0 firmware? Where can I download that version?
Not yet but the existing integration still works as usual. Presonus were just slow to do what is needed to implement the update, so the statement was removed till NI have a clearer idea of their schedule

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aMUSEd wrote: Sun Sep 07, 2025 6:58 pm Not yet but the existing integration still works as usual. Presonus were just slow to do what is needed to implement the update, so the statement was removed till NI have a clearer idea of their schedule
Mmh, I guess I still don't understand you. So they will not support firmware 2.0, until NI comes up with v3.0 or something?

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ffx wrote: Sun Sep 07, 2025 6:44 pm What what? S1 already supports Kontrol MK3 2.0 firmware? Where can I download that version?
Very important to remember what "support" means for this firmware. There are two levels of support for every firmware release for the MKIII (one from NI and another from the DAW vendors):

1. Can I install this new firmware and have my MKIII keyboard work normally within Studio One?

Yes. "Normally" being the operational word. NI has confirmed that basic hardware connectivity and any basic operations for the MKIII (that were there BEFORE v2) will work as designed in Studio One v7.2.2 (August 15)

2. Once I install this new firmware - can I use all the fancy-dancy new fangled stuff that NI says this new v2.0 firmware can do within specific DAWs (like controlling any third party plugin) within Studio One?

No. This "support" must come from Presonus. They must add all internal scripting, XML and whatever else Studio One needs to properly "enable" the advanced features of this firmware - like allowing the MKIII to assume control of third party plugins etc - within Studio One.

Takeaway - if you want the fancy stuff - it's not enabled (yet) - even tho the firmware can be used with S1. Best play is to wait until the whole package is enabled. Presonus will let us know when that is.

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ffx wrote: Sun Sep 07, 2025 7:02 pm
aMUSEd wrote: Sun Sep 07, 2025 6:58 pm Not yet but the existing integration still works as usual. Presonus were just slow to do what is needed to implement the update, so the statement was removed till NI have a clearer idea of their schedule
Mmh, I guess I still don't understand you. So they will not support firmware 2.0, until NI comes up with v3.0 or something?
Where did you get that from what I wrote? No just that the host support for the new features is developed by the host developer, not NI (although obviously with their support). Originally NI was under the impression Presonus were on track so they announced support was coming. Now they know Presonus are not on track they have removed that statement for now - otherwise it would give out a false impression. I would hope if and when Presonus do get on track we may hear more.

In the meantime nothing has been taken away - the level of integration between Kontrol and Studio One still works as it has for some time.

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Some of these posts read like AI :borg:

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Iernesto77 wrote: Sun Sep 07, 2025 6:19 pmThank you for ignoring my tendency toward drama and thank you for your contributions.I'll keep an eye in the near future.
Here is the actual reason that S1 was removed from that "list" - direct from NI:

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As suspected...

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Well, seems to me that Presonus still has a bunch of work to do regarding their "scripting" engine first, so then they will be able to implement the firmware 2.0 features. I actually didn't like Kontrol MK3 at all before, now it starts to make sense / is like it should have been from beginning. Simple, intuitive, easy to use.

Really hope for this feature soon, I think most other DAWs already implemented it?

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I still to this day don't understand why Presonus never made a modern range of Keyboard controllers for S1. They have a decent range of controllers already so why not add a nice keyboard range to the list.

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Bowsy wrote: Tue Sep 09, 2025 12:19 pmI still to this day don't understand why Presonus never made a modern range of Keyboard controllers for S1. They have a decent range of controllers already so why not add a nice keyboard range to the list.
First reason is because Presonus was never a musical instrument company - they are an audio equipment company at their most basic:

1. Audio Interfaces
2. Studio Monitors & Headphones
3. Mixers
4. Software: Studio One DAW

That said - they did try to go in this direction with the ATOM controllers - but those have almost been abandoned. After the initial launch of those devices - I expected big things - but they ended up probably losing money in the end. I still love mine but I do not see a future in this space.

Secondly (and most importantly) - Presonus is now owned by Fender - they will dictate what Presonus can (and cannot do) in the hardware space.

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Vocalpoint Studios wrote: Sun Sep 07, 2025 8:43 pm
Here is the actual reason that S1 was removed from that "list" - direct from NI:


2025-09-07_14-42-05.png


As suspected...

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They must be busy refining the tuner :lol:

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