Drum machine
- KVRAF
- 20910 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Yes, certainly. I thought Circuit Rhythm is more for loops, in which case Circuit Tracks would be the one to get. But I could be wrong about that.
Electribes are great, too. The ER-1 is another one of my all-time favorite pieces of hardware. I used to perform live with it, so you can imagine how easy it is to work with (no menu diving).
Electribes are great, too. The ER-1 is another one of my all-time favorite pieces of hardware. I used to perform live with it, so you can imagine how easy it is to work with (no menu diving).
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 901 posts since 7 Aug, 2018
Thank you for your reply.
Rhythm is a sampler.
So, I prefer Tracks, which is a groovebox and handles drum tracks.
I can load other sound packs, which also makes it scalable.
So, Tracks, for my use case, could be a great machine, or even an alternative.
The Electribes of the time were really great.
I'm much less keen on current models.
Rhythm is a sampler.
So, I prefer Tracks, which is a groovebox and handles drum tracks.
I can load other sound packs, which also makes it scalable.
So, Tracks, for my use case, could be a great machine, or even an alternative.
The Electribes of the time were really great.
I'm much less keen on current models.
- KVRAF
- 1746 posts since 3 Nov, 2023
Good call, completely forgot about that.Uncle E wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 8:18 pm
Electribes are great, too. The ER-1 is another one of my all-time favorite pieces of hardware.
How original
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 901 posts since 7 Aug, 2018
Since I didn't really find a machine that suited me, I opted for a simpler solution.
I bought sample packs and also purchased the Waves CR8, with the integrated Cosmos Finder, and it suits my needs perfectly.
I bought sample packs and also purchased the Waves CR8, with the integrated Cosmos Finder, and it suits my needs perfectly.
- KVRAF
- 20910 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
If I may ask, what is better about that system compared to XO or Atlas?
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 901 posts since 7 Aug, 2018
Thank you for your reply.
Of course you can ask
Honestly, I don't know.
I haven't tried anything else.
My choice was made simply by receiving an offer from Waves on another product.
I visited the Waves website and saw that it had the Cosmos Finder and that it was integrated with the CR8, and I thought it might be a good combination.
Now, the other two are certainly more advanced, perhaps offering more choices and options?
But for my use, the CR8 and the Cosmos Finder are perfect for me.
Note that I have a reasonable sample collection; now, perhaps the Cosmos Finder is less able to handle large volumes of samples.
Of course you can ask
Honestly, I don't know.
I haven't tried anything else.
My choice was made simply by receiving an offer from Waves on another product.
I visited the Waves website and saw that it had the Cosmos Finder and that it was integrated with the CR8, and I thought it might be a good combination.
Now, the other two are certainly more advanced, perhaps offering more choices and options?
But for my use, the CR8 and the Cosmos Finder are perfect for me.
Note that I have a reasonable sample collection; now, perhaps the Cosmos Finder is less able to handle large volumes of samples.
- KVRAF
- 20910 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
FWIW, I just got notified that Circuit Rhythm will be going on sale soon.
- KVRAF
- 1703 posts since 11 Nov, 2004 from Kansas City, MO
I miss my old Drumbrute Impact. Though it has a bright sound, with splashy and metallic cymbals, hats, etc, the kicks and snares are good. The toms, meh. The FM drum is tunable and I really liked it. I also have both Elektron Model boxes, the Samples makes a super drum machine and the Cycles might have a close enough sound to the Drumbrute Impact if that's what you like. These two want to be the centerpieces of a setup, not a role player like my Volca Sample was with my SQ-64. Same for my Circuit Tracks, it needs to be the boss, and the drum track count limits it in that area. I wouldn't mind getting a TR8/TR8S, I might never look back from one of those.
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- KVRer
- 29 posts since 19 May, 2023
New Roland drum machine
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- KVRAF
- 8237 posts since 22 Sep, 2008 from Windsor. UK
Seeing as trance (of all sub-genres) is still heavily based around 909 samples, you might as well look at the Digitakt.
Very intuitive (for elektron) and poweful, with the added benefit of the best DAW integration in the business.
Very intuitive (for elektron) and poweful, with the added benefit of the best DAW integration in the business.
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- KVRian
- 1475 posts since 7 Oct, 2023 from Tokyo
Yes, but if you just load drum samples on it, what's the problem? The Elektron Digitakt is also a sampler and yet is widely used. I wouldn't rule out the Circuit Rhythm just because it's a sampler.Trancer wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 9:39 pm Thank you for your reply.
Rhythm is a sampler.
So, I prefer Tracks, which is a groovebox and handles drum tracks.
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- KVRAF
- 5229 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Earth
The 808 is not a good drum machine for Trance.Dust_NL wrote: Fri Aug 08, 2025 4:08 pm Does it have to be HW? Otherwise, the 808-clone Nepheton from the excellent company D16 is on sale Today on 808-day.
A 707 and 808 combo are good for Oldschool hip hop and Pop music.
The TR-909 is what you want for Trance and Dance music.
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- KVRian
- 1475 posts since 7 Oct, 2023 from Tokyo
The usual big fat 808 *samples* are for sure not what you want for trance.
However both the 808 and 909 themselves are way, way more versatile than most give them credit for. Both have been used for things you would never expect (like post-punk, industrial and goth rock). For example, the entire album Garlands by Cocteau Twins (their debut) uses an 808, and Skinny Puppy's debut album Remission used a 909.
And I bet no one would have guessed that.
However both the 808 and 909 themselves are way, way more versatile than most give them credit for. Both have been used for things you would never expect (like post-punk, industrial and goth rock). For example, the entire album Garlands by Cocteau Twins (their debut) uses an 808, and Skinny Puppy's debut album Remission used a 909.
And I bet no one would have guessed that.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 901 posts since 7 Aug, 2018
Thank you so much for your responses and opinions.
Compared to the kick drum, the RD 9 seems a little light, not very punchy or powerful.
I'm not a fan of the workflow for Elektron boxes at all.
Furthermore, I'm looking for a machine that's intuitive and as straightforward as possible.
Which is clearly not Elektron's specialty.
Elektron is powerful, but there are too many menus and submenus to get anywhere.
I had the Analog Rythm mk2, the Syntakt, and didn't keep it. Even the Syntakt, which is normally more accessible, took me way too long to get anywhere.
Elektron is very powerful, but too much of a hassle to get there.
I didn't know the 808 and 909 were so versatile.
Also very important, I'd like to be able to create kicks, snares, and rolls directly on the machine.
https://splice.com/sounds/packs/zenhise ... -3/samples
Like those in
Page 3 (005 drum roll)
Page 4 (024 drum roll)
Page 4 (001 and 002 and 004 drum roll)
Without the sample's ending effects.
I'm only interested in the kick roll part.
This feature is essential to my musical style.
Compared to the kick drum, the RD 9 seems a little light, not very punchy or powerful.
I'm not a fan of the workflow for Elektron boxes at all.
Furthermore, I'm looking for a machine that's intuitive and as straightforward as possible.
Which is clearly not Elektron's specialty.
Elektron is powerful, but there are too many menus and submenus to get anywhere.
I had the Analog Rythm mk2, the Syntakt, and didn't keep it. Even the Syntakt, which is normally more accessible, took me way too long to get anywhere.
Elektron is very powerful, but too much of a hassle to get there.
I didn't know the 808 and 909 were so versatile.
Also very important, I'd like to be able to create kicks, snares, and rolls directly on the machine.
https://splice.com/sounds/packs/zenhise ... -3/samples
Like those in
Page 3 (005 drum roll)
Page 4 (024 drum roll)
Page 4 (001 and 002 and 004 drum roll)
Without the sample's ending effects.
I'm only interested in the kick roll part.
This feature is essential to my musical style.