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musicdevelopments · Post by **musicdevelopments** » Mon Sep 29, 2025 9:41 am

Hi lulukom,

I am afraid macOS 10.13 is not supported by the library that I use for inference that is why it crashes. Other functionality in RapidComposer will work but not this new one. For v6.0 at least macOS 11 is required.
Even now I use an old version of the inference library, not the latest one which requires at least 13.4.
macOS 11 (Big Sur) is generally considered to have reached "end of life" in September 2023, when its last security update (11.7.10) was released. So it would be the optimal to require at least macOS 13 for RC 6.0, but I try to maintain compatibility with macOS 11 as long as possible.

Thanks,
Attila

sj1 · Post by **sj1** » Mon Sep 29, 2025 12:12 pm

Excellent additions to LIVE MODE in RapidComposer v6.0b9!

I very much like the way sequential selections with the mouse stack up into a (hidden) list and all playback one-after-the-other. The way the arrowhead and the orange highlighting works I also like very much.

There are a few things that ideally will become doable in the future, exact interface TBD: (The following observations/comments based on using the mouse)

1. Repeats of a given section. For example, consider this:

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One might want to play that section, say, 4 times. Currently you can only play it once, after which playback stops if you haven't clicked on a different section. Ideally, clicking it 4 times (instead of just once) would display the repeat count "4" (somewhere), which would then count down as 4 playbacks were done. User input errors should ideally be correctable, so if I mistakenly click 5 times I could (for example) use the other mouse button to lower that back to the intended 4.

Also, infinite repeat of a section should be available - meaning continue to repeat until further instructions (we be jammin' ...).

2. It is clear that a list is being constructed behind the scenes and then being stepped thru for playback. An interface directly to this list to allow editing it would be great. Then being able to save and reload the list would allow for creation and saving of multiple arrangements. You'd be approaching the capabilities of the Cubase Arrange mode in this case - and in a good way! Each item in the list just needs a repeat count and you'd be basically there.

3. Referring back to the string of messages starting here: viewtopic.php?p=8770604&hilit=structure#p8770604 , easy creation and dicing of structure presets remains as a desirable goal, IMO.

Since LIVE MODE is already coded to do Key (/mouse) Assignment By Lines and By Parts, everything done to make the structural creation of Lines and Parts easy, fast, and flexible immediately gets the "double benefit" of creating a usable LIVE MODE template.

musicdevelopments · Post by **musicdevelopments** » Mon Sep 29, 2025 12:18 pm

Thank you, Steve, really useful suggestions!

I am doing my best to add recording and editing in the next few days.

Thanks,
Attila

sj1 · Post by **sj1** » Mon Sep 29, 2025 6:10 pm

Hi. The Neural Phrase Engine seems to have a max creation length of 16m (64/4).

In an initial generation, m1 is blank (allocated for a count-in). This leaves a 15m phrase, which is generally not ideal for common 8/16/24/32 etc. measure forms.

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I suggest that the dialog offer a checkbox for whether the user wants a 1 bar (or 2 bar) or no countin, and then place the 'Composition length' (e.g. 64/4 = 16m) amount of generated material after that.

sj1 · Post by **sj1** » Mon Sep 29, 2025 6:17 pm

I have also observed (as after the picture above) that when one butts the playhead all the way to the right and tries to extend the composition, RC reports 'Creating notes' but there is no visible result - no new notes, no change in length of the composition.

sj1 · Post by **sj1** » Mon Sep 29, 2025 6:41 pm

Hi again. I'm finding it impossible to repeatedly regenerate the Master Track without the Master Track Inspector (MTI) jumping to a position which covers (part of) it up. If the MTI were a detachable window (so I could move it completely outside of the composition area) that would be great, otherwise just having it stay wherever I last put it would be better then having to repeatedly move it out of the way of observing the Master Track chords.

I can see that the general idea is to (re)present the full length/content of the MTI to the user (good, in principle), but when the result is to cover up the thing being worked on, then the downside exceeds the upside in actual use.

Perhaps the MTI window itself needs another icon that we can turn on/off to indicate whether it will be subject to automatic repositioning or not. (But beware of being both offscreen/invisible and not able to fix itself.)

Another possibility that occurs to me is for the MIT window not to reposition itself (ever) but to offer an icon which means "make fully visible on screen". Then we could click that when we need it while the window otherwise stays where put.

sj1 · Post by **sj1** » Mon Sep 29, 2025 6:53 pm

Hi.

After a simple 4m Neural generation, I cut the part so I could attempt to eliminate the leading 2m.

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However, when I clicked on the trashcan to remove Line 1, Line 2 was removed instead.

BluGenes · Post by **BluGenes** » Mon Sep 29, 2025 8:30 pm

Hey Atilla, during install, I got an error.. "Error opening file for writing:" (the file was the RC vst3).

Got the abort retry ignore dialog. I ignored and everything installed except the vst. The output folder it was writing to was the c:program files\common files\vst3\RapidComposer.vst3

Have a screen shot, but, snaggy site is down..

musicdevelopments · Post by **musicdevelopments** » Tue Sep 30, 2025 6:38 am

Hi BluGenes,

I changed the install script to be more reliable.
The installer did two steps: first it copied the freshly built RapidComposer.vst3 file and then it renamed to RapidComposerV6.vst3. This rename failed on your PC. The next installer will directly create the file RapidComposerV6.vst3.

Thanks,
Attila

musicdevelopments · Post by **musicdevelopments** » Tue Sep 30, 2025 5:44 pm

sj1 wrote: Mon Sep 29, 2025 6:41 pm Hi again. I'm finding it impossible to repeatedly regenerate the Master Track without the Master Track Inspector (MTI) jumping to a position which covers (part of) it up. If the MTI were a detachable window (so I could move it completely outside of the composition area) that would be great

You can actually open the inspectors as a separate window, look for "open inspectors in separate window" under Settings / Miscellaneous. It would be a good feature to enable this for each inspector independently in the inspector. There is so much to do

musicdevelopments · Post by **musicdevelopments** » Tue Sep 30, 2025 5:53 pm

RapidComposer v6.0b10 is available!

Improvements:

Count-in is detected and removed from generated notes
Maximum length increased to 128/4
[macOS] Warning for older macOS versions than 11 (inference will not work)
UNDO is possible after generation
Separate percussion tracks joined into a single track
Fixed: to continue a composition did not work
Fixed Windows installer (if you have a RapidComposer.vst3 file in Common Files\VST3 as a result of previous installation, please remove it manually)

BluGenes · Post by **BluGenes** » Tue Sep 30, 2025 6:19 pm

Yea, got it!

musicdevelopments · Post by **musicdevelopments** » Tue Sep 30, 2025 6:24 pm

You are right, BluGenes but this issue appeared in the previous installer (v6.0b9), and I believe it won't happen again. Now I do not have a separate "rename" step but the VST3 file is created with the right name.

Thanks,
Attila

BluGenes · Post by **BluGenes** » Tue Sep 30, 2025 6:30 pm

k.. post collision occurred..

galenkane · Post by **galenkane** » Thu Oct 02, 2025 1:11 am

hey bro nothing news about sdk for project files ?

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