Limiting, - still quiet! - best limiters?
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JumpingJackFlash JumpingJackFlash https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=44005
- KVRian
- 1227 posts since 10 Oct, 2004
I've produced a track, paying especial attention to volume as I go. It's as loud as it can be in the first place without clipping, then I've put a limiter on it, set to high, but the track still sounds quiet compared with commercial tracks.
What can I do to make it sound louder?
Also, are there any really good freeware limiters that might help me? - What are the best?
What can I do to make it sound louder?
Also, are there any really good freeware limiters that might help me? - What are the best?
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- KVRian
- 644 posts since 6 Apr, 2004
Check your tune with some spectrum analizer and compare to commercial releases in the same genre. Works for me.
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- KVRian
- 1121 posts since 4 Jun, 2003 from Skanky Manc
Some multiband compression before your limiter will help.
Don't expect to get near the volume of some comercial CDs with a few plugins though. Those CDs have been run though some *very* expensive hardware.
Don't expect to get near the volume of some comercial CDs with a few plugins though. Those CDs have been run though some *very* expensive hardware.
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- KVRAF
- 6740 posts since 25 Mar, 2002 from sheffield, england
To be honest, most commersial tracks these days have been squashed far too much.
If your CD sounds good, but too quiet, the listener will turn it up.
If your CD is too compressed, it will just seem irritating, and the listener will turn it down. (or off.)
Which would you prefer?
Highly recommended reading!!
If your CD sounds good, but too quiet, the listener will turn it up.
If your CD is too compressed, it will just seem irritating, and the listener will turn it down. (or off.)
Which would you prefer?
Highly recommended reading!!
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- KVRAF
- 3139 posts since 6 Sep, 2002 from United Kingdom & Opinions Will Travel :O)
I don't know about best free limiters - but the one I found to be cheap and of high quality is this
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/589.html
Well worth saving up for.
Best regards,
Spe3d
:O)
http://www.kvraudio.com/get/589.html
Well worth saving up for.
Best regards,
Spe3d
:O)
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- KVRist
- 381 posts since 13 Mar, 2002 from purple
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- KVRAF
- 3441 posts since 15 Mar, 2003
You might want to check to see if you can do some cutting of low frequencies. If you filter out everything below what you can actually hear you will free up some headroom and be able to go louder without overly squashing your sound.
Though I agree with the people who are saying that this loudness mania is simply idiotic and serves no purpose.
I wish everyone would stop it.
I can't even listen to the radio anymore because everything sounds so terrible.
Though I agree with the people who are saying that this loudness mania is simply idiotic and serves no purpose.
I wish everyone would stop it.
I can't even listen to the radio anymore because everything sounds so terrible.
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- KVRAF
- 2278 posts since 8 Apr, 2003
But its ghost lives on:jdg wrote:loudnessrace . net is gone
http://web.archive.org/web/200312190015 ... srace.net/
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- KVRist
- 415 posts since 8 Dec, 2003 from NYC (born & raised in Philly)
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- KVRist
- 133 posts since 10 Feb, 2003 from Netherlands
If you have wavelab (or AAMS) , try out to read RMS loudness instead of levels. You can check a commercial track and your mix, and see the difference.
or check out my site!
or check out my site!
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- KVRian
- 1394 posts since 28 Mar, 2002 from Austria
Still the best free Limiter without coloration:
http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/classic-master-limiter.php
You should also try to cut the low frequencies under 30-40 Hz, which consumes a lot of unnecessary energy.
For commercial Limiter try Voxengo's Elephant.
Also a good one to try is PSP VintageWarmer.
http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/classic-master-limiter.php
You should also try to cut the low frequencies under 30-40 Hz, which consumes a lot of unnecessary energy.
For commercial Limiter try Voxengo's Elephant.
Also a good one to try is PSP VintageWarmer.
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- KVRian
- 1325 posts since 1 Sep, 2004
Limiter?JumpingJackFlash wrote:I've produced a track, paying especial attention to volume as I go. It's as loud as it can be in the first place without clipping, then I've put a limiter on it, set to high, but the track still sounds quiet compared with commercial tracks.
What can I do to make it sound louder?
Also, are there any really good freeware limiters that might help me? - What are the best?
Don't you mismatch anything here?
What you need is an (additional) loudness maximizer (even also maybe a multiband compressor) to push your songs the required way.
ps: I am often somehow "confused" here inside the fora, because most ppl obviously don't really know something of the differences in dynamics modification and mastering tools (expanders, compressors, limiters, saturators and so on).
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- KVRAF
- 5703 posts since 8 Dec, 2004 from The Twin Cities
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- KVRian
- 644 posts since 6 Apr, 2004
Read this.
