Reason CEO quits at RS

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Exactly. Buy the VST rack with the usual basics (maelsreom subtractor redrum yadda yadda blah blah) and buy whatever Rack Extensions and Refills for your needs.
It's really that simple from a consumer perspective but those ego Props just have to do things the so called innovative way and make Record.

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I dunno it's bone picking IMO, Reason goes on sale often enough and isn't as expensive as Omnisphere, I don't know what people want? it to be $150 or less??? likely not going to happen. It was just $199 recently if I recall correctly.

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nevermind

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machinesworking wrote: Mon Oct 13, 2025 9:38 pm This among other things made Reason seem like it was good in 2005, not so great once it decided to be a full blown DAW instead of the bad ass workstation sequencer it was.
Thing is: many of us DO use Reason as a full blown DAW - and nothing else.

And I am not tired of saying this: personally I don't see the point at all to load it as a rack into other DAWs - that's just so unelegant and you lose about 90% of what makes Reason great.

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At this rate and with recent events, I don't think I'll ever receive the product in the form I imagined it in or the direction I expected it to go, which is my own situation (my bad if you will), of course. Plus R13 browser never got along with me, not even the latest updates.

I am starting to entertain the idea of account takeover. How credible and feasible is it to expect to sell an account with almost 4000EUR spent over the years? Of course, the latest version of Reason and the list of rack extensions are pretty extensive. Just curious. What price to expect?

On the other hand, it wouldn't surprise me (with my luck and my timing) if right when I sell Reason 13, and if I sell it, they release something new the next day and it's exactly what I was waiting for. Or something dope.

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jens wrote: Tue Oct 14, 2025 1:09 pm
machinesworking wrote: Mon Oct 13, 2025 9:38 pm This among other things made Reason seem like it was good in 2005, not so great once it decided to be a full blown DAW instead of the bad ass workstation sequencer it was.
Thing is: many of us DO use Reason as a full blown DAW - and nothing else.

And I am not tired of saying this: personally I don't see the point at all to load it as a rack into other DAWs - that's just so unelegant and you lose about 90% of what makes Reason great.
No real disagreement here, they should have instead improved rewire, some DAWs like Reaper had already figured out how to remove the whole master/slave relationship and let it be mostly a full audio and midi communication between two DAWs. Instead Rack is less than what FL Studio offers.

The point is pretty straightforward, it gets people like me with ages old copies of Reason to upgrade, and I do almost exclusively use it as a rack instrument. I don't love what they did with the GUI as a DAW, elements are either too large blown up or too small at normal size, like a few other older DAWs.

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kmonkey wrote: Tue Oct 14, 2025 3:19 pm
I am starting to entertain the idea of account takeover. How credible and feasible is it to expect to sell an account with almost 4000EUR spent over the years? Of course, the latest version of Reason and the list of rack extensions are pretty extensive. Just curious. What price to expect?
Expect the regular price for what you can buy it used, something around 200 EUR maybe + costs of RS Rack Extensions. (only RS REs).

As far as I know, you cant' transfer, sell or even give away for free all the other companies Rack Extensions at all.

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Anyone purchased stock in BIMobject? Thinking about grabbing some but curious on others take of the company.

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LaLivre wrote: Tue Oct 14, 2025 4:34 pm Expect the regular price for what you can buy it used, something around 200 EUR maybe + costs of RS Rack Extensions. (only RS REs).

As far as I know, you cant' transfer, sell or even give away for free all the other companies Rack Extensions at all.
Aware of that, which is why I am entertaining the account takeover idea. Thanks

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jens wrote: Mon Oct 13, 2025 2:00 pm Either way, the most important thing is he's gone - Mattias next please!
At least they should move him to a position where he has no influence on important decisions that affect the software. But maybe he's stuck to his position as if glued there.

T.b.h., I think that the devices are pretty good he creates, even if they are sometimes not fully thought through. For example, why can't you copy slots in Mimic and sync the tempo to song bpm? Or why can't you keep the tempo in Grain synchronized with the BPM? Why you can not copy engines in Europa? Why Combinator 2 has no horizontal fader, endless led knobs or some switches with more than 2 step values? And so on..

It seems he has zero interest in live stuff, usability, workflow, performing, song compositon, controlling and mixing at all. He is more like a sound tinkerer and totally unsuitable for project-management and moving the program forward.

Yes, he should quit his position a.s.a.p., too.

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LaLivre wrote: Wed Oct 15, 2025 9:07 am T.b.h., I think that the devices are pretty good he creates, even if they are sometimes not fully thought through.
What do you mean creates? I don't think he is really capable of creating much of anything himself, i.e. I don't think he's got any serious skills worth mentioning. He's just messing with the work of those under him who got the skills his company relies on in order to survive.

I said it before, I'll say it again: I am convinced that if his company sacked him without any replacement whatsoever, everyone (except himself) would be better off.
Last edited by jens on Thu Oct 16, 2025 1:00 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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^^^That's probably true.
ABEFLGMOPPRRST :phones:

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jens wrote: Thu Oct 16, 2025 12:56 pm
LaLivre wrote: Wed Oct 15, 2025 9:07 am T.b.h., I think that the devices are pretty good he creates, even if they are sometimes not fully thought through.
What do you mean creates? I don't think he is really capable of creating much of anything himself, i.e. I don't think he's got any serious skills worth mentioning. He's just messing with the work of those under him who got the skills his company relies on in order to survive.

I said it before, I'll say it again: I am convinced that if his company sacked him without any replacement whatsoever, everyone (except himself) would be better off.
Well, actually Ithink he's the guy who made the microtutorials, which imo are just brilliant - funny&entertaining, straight to the point&concise, full of good info and with good musical examples - and even the voice actor appears to know what he's talking about for a change...

and if so a) I feel a need to wholeheartedly apologize for saying he's got no skills worth mentioning and b) it's hard for me to fathom that it's the same guy who appears so ignorant&clueless and yet so smug as a product manager.

What happened? Maybe he just really deserved a promotion and that was the position that made sense to them, even though he's in way over his head (apparently without ever realizing it).
I think they should have just given him a bit fat raise and a bigger budget instead.
None of the recent video-content is imo nearly as good as this old stuff - sorry, Ryan... :shrug:

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Wishing for real people to get fired feels in very bad taste to me, especially since it’s focused on one person and I’ve seen people do it multiple times on this forum. Reason Studios is a company, you don’t know what goes on inside it and are targeting the only employees who have online presences.

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Reason has really gone downhill the last 15 years. Only reason I have it installed is for old projects. The instruments are great but the rest is stuck in 2010. Really hope they will find back to their innovative roots and move away from subscription. They should also change their name back to Propellerhead so they can develop all new products. Reason Studio is also a confusing and ungoogleable company name.
Reason used to have a thriving community but they turned their backs to their customers again and again.

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