Audiothing Releases JUNE (Juno-60 Emulation)

[muki]

[steff3]

I use it on the iPad. I like the sound and editing, but when playing on the touch screen the UI jumps up and down on the display (in stand-alone app).

Hope this gets addressed as well. And yes, preset handling is quite user unfriendly.

[audiothing]

I use it on the iPad. I like the sound and editing, but when playing on the touch screen the UI jumps up and down on the display (in stand-alone app).

Hope this gets addressed as well. And yes, preset handling is quite user unfriendly.

That's because Zoom and Scroll is enabled. Open the options menu and disable it if you prefer the standard view.

With Zoom and Scroll enabled, you can tap outside the plugin window to zoom in, then tap and drag along the sides to move around the interface. Double-tap the sides to return to full screen.

[Chris-S]

Hi, I would prefere when the sliders would exactly follow the mouse. Right now they are moving with circa 40%.

[steff3]

That's because Zoom and Scroll is enabled. Open the options menu and disable it if you prefer the standard view.

With Zoom and Scroll enabled, you can tap outside the plugin window to zoom in, then tap and drag along the sides to move around the interface. Double-tap the sides to return to full screen.

Thanks, well, by now I got that it is controllable (and not a bug) by touching above or below to slide up / down. Will dry the settings. Thanks.

Another question: Got the macOS version today - it seems that clap-version does not support per voice modulations (in Bitwig)?
Any chance or plans of adding /supporting that?

Cheers, thanks for your reply.

[Uncle E]

I guess I am the only one who didn't like it... (I do have Tal's Juno 60, Roland's Juno 60 and 106 and softube 106).

Which do you prefer between the TAL and Roland Juno 60's?

[MTorn]

My biggest hangup with this one is how velocity -> filter is implemented. It simply modulates the basic cutoff frequency, but (imho) a much more pleasant and expressive response can be had if velocity modulates the filter envelope amount instead.

Same issue with ALL the Softube synths. I simply don’t use them much because of this, despite how lovely they are.

The TAL synths, on the other hand, implement velocity “correctly”.

[audiothing]

Hi, I would prefere when the sliders would exactly follow the mouse. Right now they are moving with circa 40%.

Yes, we are improving slider behavior also on iOS.

[audiothing]

Another question: Got the macOS version today - it seems that clap-version does not support per voice modulations (in Bitwig)?
Any chance or plans of adding /supporting that?

Not in the near future, unfortunately. Our CLAP implementation still relies on some workarounds.

[zvenx]

Definitely the Tal.
The Roland stays mostly unused on my hard drive.

rsp

I guess I am the only one who didn't like it... (I do have Tal's Juno 60, Roland's Juno 60 and 106 and softube 106).

Which do you prefer between the TAL and Roland Juno 60's?

[IvyBirds]

My biggest hangup with this one is how velocity -> filter is implemented. It simply modulates the basic cutoff frequency, but (imho) a much more pleasant and expressive response can be had if velocity modulates the filter envelope amount instead.

Same issue with ALL the Softube synths. I simply don’t use them much because of this, despite how lovely they are.

The TAL synths, on the other hand, implement velocity “correctly”.

Considering that the Juno 60 wasn't velocity sensitive there is no "correct" way to implement velocity in any software emulation of it.

If you want the full Juno 60 experience in a plugin don't use velocity at all

[audiojunkie]

So.......those with the experience: How does it sound compared to a real Juno 60? Compared to TAL's Juno? etc? Where would you rank JUNO against all of the others?

[audiothing]

My biggest hangup with this one is how velocity -> filter is implemented. It simply modulates the basic cutoff frequency, but (imho) a much more pleasant and expressive response can be had if velocity modulates the filter envelope amount instead.

Yes, we already got a few requests for that. It'll be probably add it as a global option to switch between cutoff/envelope. Personally, I still prefer the velocity to be assigned to Cutoff, but I understand it might be useful to assign it to the envelope.

[IvyBirds]

So.......those with the experience: How does it sound compared to a real Juno 60? Compared to TAL's Juno? etc? Where would you rank JUNO against all of the others?

If you went on Reverb/eBay right now and got 10 different Juno 106s all of them at this point would sound slightly different from the others

Likewise the various Juno plugins that exist also all sound slightly different. All of the modern ones will give you a pretty realistic Juno sound. Juno plugins from 10-20 years ago will be more hit or miss

The main differences are in the extras each developer adds that were not in the original. Things like velocity and how it's implemented and effects

Audio Thing's June sounds really good and is IMHO an accurate emulation of the real deal. The real deal was a fairly simple synth with a single DCO so there are multiple options from multiple developers that will also sound really good

What sets June apart is Audio Things deep background in vintage sounding effects and the built in effects in June are awesome. As a simple synth the Juno relied on its Chorus to not sound thin. The chorus emulation here is awesome and very realistic but the other included effects that were not in the original are also awesome and all work very well for the Juno's base sounds

[tlvid]

My biggest hangup with this one is how velocity -> filter is implemented. It simply modulates the basic cutoff frequency, but (imho) a much more pleasant and expressive response can be had if velocity modulates the filter envelope amount instead.

Same issue with ALL the Softube synths. I simply don’t use them much because of this, despite how lovely they are.

The TAL synths, on the other hand, implement velocity “correctly”.

Considering that the Juno 60 wasn't velocity sensitive there is no "correct" way to implement velocity in any software emulation of it.

If you want the full Juno 60 experience in a plugin don't use velocity at all

Thank you for saying this. I appreciate the options that are provided for people who want them, but if they want a completely customisable modern synth just use Serum or Pigments or something. Many of us who like vintage emulations want them to be identical to the hardware, limitations and all. The additional options should come on top of that base.