Presonus : "So we are targeting 3-4 "major" feature releases every year..."

[Vocalpoint Studios]

Release dates between 2, 3 and 4 were much longer and so much more was created in that time. They also had a very active community to provide for and to provide feedback on Studio One. There is still a studio one community forum but it's user run. It's a quite place in comparison though.

That is true - but that was also a special time where S1 was young and lacked many of the features that the bigger players had at the time.

Stands to reason that when you are in "growth" mode - the features will come fast and furious.

And Presonus was not owned by a corporate parent back then either. They could do what they wanted to - when they wanted to - on their terms and their timeframes.

Studio One is now an elder statesman and truly new inventive features are few and far between.

It will be interesting to watch where this goes. I am trying very hard to remain positive.

VP

[greymattre98]

Gregor said 3 to 4 "major" releases a year. The timeline shows 3 spaced evenly through 2025 and again in 2026. There were roughly 4 months between the first and second releases in 2025 (Jan 29 to Jun 3).

So even at only 3 per year, they should in theory be spaced 4 months apart. We are approaching 5 months. If number 3 doesn't come for 6 months (Nov?), that pretty much blows up the cycle. If it doesn't release until early December and we go 4 months, 2026 would be April, August, December IF they can even accomplish 3 releases 4 months apart. The math doesn't add up based on their track record and promises.

IF they ran into an issue with whatever they are cooking up, they could at least state an update and ask for us to be patient. Their silence does them no favors and garners no good will.

[Vocalpoint Studios]

IF they ran into an issue with whatever they are cooking up, they could at least state an update and ask for us to be patient. Their silence does them no favors and garners no good will.

I still think everyone is putting way too much stock in that video - we need to relax and see what comes down the pipe.

My "annual updates" plan has now expired and I am running free and clear @ zero cost. I am just fine to play "wait and see" for a while - even possibly a very long while.

Fender is running this show now and they won't sending around reassuring emails, updates or any explanations for delays either real or perceived - that is for sure.

VP

[Fidelitymusic]

There are new third party software offers on My Presonus for Studio One Pro 7 owners, even those with expired upgrade plans. Go to https://my.presonus.com/home to redeem the following software titles.

Arturia - Dist COLDFIRE
UJAM - Virtual Bassist ROYAL
UJAM - Virtual Drummer LEGEND

[Kypresso]

There are new third party software offers on My Presonus for Studio One Pro 7 owners, even those with expired upgrade plans. Go to https://my.presonus.com/home to redeem the following software titles.

Arturia - Dist COLDFIRE
UJAM - Virtual Bassist ROYAL
UJAM - Virtual Drummer LEGEND

Lol, we couldn't manage to make the Major release due now, so heres some cheap crap to keep you quiet.

[andypryce]

IF they ran into an issue with whatever they are cooking up, they could at least state an update and ask for us to be patient. Their silence does them no favors and garners no good will.

I still think everyone is putting way too much stock in that video - we need to relax and see what comes down the pipe.

My "annual updates" plan has now expired and I am running free and clear @ zero cost. I am just fine to play "wait and see" for a while - even possibly a very long while.

Fender is running this show now and they won't sending around reassuring emails, updates or any explanations for delays either real or perceived - that is for sure.

VP

Because the essence of that video was “we are limiting what you get with your purchase to 12 months but do not worry we plan to release more major updates during that time than our usual timeframe.
Did it happen? No.
So there you go..

It would be a good gesture for their perception if they release a substantial update in the next couple of months and allow all 7 users to have it.

[Vocalpoint Studios]

It would be a good gesture for their perception if they release a substantial update in the next couple of months and allow all 7 users to have it.

While I can always imagine a substantial update - I cannot imagine it will be free.

This is a business - not a charity.

Nice thing is - you can choose to buy it (and support the DEV team) or not - and still get to keep using S1 v7.2.3 - forever if need be.

But yeah - do not really think Fender is into "good gestures" or holding our hand becuase some users allowed a goofy video (that has not aged well) to upset them - it's not binding in any way.

For me personally - I have work to do. If any future update is actually "substantial" and offers improvements I can use - I am in with no questions - video or no video. If it's lackluster - I will pass. Many others will do the same.

But if you are sitting around waiting for a free handout - could be a long wait.

VP

[Crossinger]

While I can always imagine a substantial update - I cannot imagine it will be free.

This is a business - not a charity.

Ok, let's forget about the video for a moment. And yet it must be said that v7, including last year's updates, is the most dull release in years. In hindsight I should have sticked with v6.

[Vocalpoint Studios]

And yet it must be said that v7, including last year's updates, is the most dull release in years. In hindsight I should have sticked with v6.

I guess it all comes down to what each us interprets as "dull". If one is expecting whiz-bang workflow altering additions within every update - then yeah - I get it.

But if you are seeking a pro platform that oozes stability and maturity and gets the job done without the inclusion of a ton of gizmos - that is not dull in my book.

Studio One v7 is VERY mature now and there is really nothing lacking. "New & Shiny" has to wind down eventually.

The real power (for me) in any future updates will be how Presonus adds even more power (+ fit and finish) to all the good things it already has.

I would love to see a Browser overhaul tho. That is one area that needs some TLC. And the internal instruments (Presence, Impact XT) could use a modern facelift as well.

VP

[Crossinger]

But if you are seeking a pro platform that oozes stability and maturity and gets the job done without the inclusion of a ton of gizmos - that is not dull in my book.

Studio One v7 is VERY mature now and there is really nothing lacking. "New & Shiny" has to wind down eventually.

I get your point. On the other hand, even Steinberg has packed Cubase 14 with tons of new features. And this despite the fact that I see Cubase in the same league: a tool to get the job done.

[Vocalpoint Studios]

I get your point. On the other hand, even Steinberg has packed Cubase 14 with tons of new features. And this despite the fact that I see Cubase in the same league: a tool to get the job done.

Another take: One does not need to copy the other guy to be good.

Cubase has it's fans but also it's detactors. They have also been playing catchup in some areas for a while now to stay in line with the other players.

DAW Axiom 14b: If you do not already have a "thing" - copying other guys "thing" makes it "look" like a new feature.

While every DAW out there is pretty much feature complete now - when it comes to workflow - Cubase is no where near S1 for sheer speed, efficiency and stability.

I will take that - over new features - any day.

VP

[andypryce]

Cubase is no where near S1 for sheer speed, efficiency and stability.

I will take that - over new features - any day.

VP

Interesting.. Despite the great speed, workflow and features, I moved back to Cubase due to the poorer efficiency and stability. No more spikes or hiccups or constant crashes. Can score easily with huge templates, no slow down or halt or spikes.
I am on Mac though. Heard that S1 runs better on PC but Cubase on Mac is killer.

[Vocalpoint Studios]

Interesting.. Despite the great speed, workflow and features, I moved back to Cubase due to the poorer efficiency and stability. No more spikes or hiccups or constant crashes. Can score easily with huge templates, no slow down or halt or spikes. I am on Mac though. Heard that S1 runs better on PC but Cubase on Mac is killer.

Yep. No contest on Windows for S1.

Cubase is (was) a crash fest at the best of times when I used it. But this was circa 2010-11

Have had 3 crashes ever that I can recall in S1 since 2011 - all in the early days and all with sketch plugins.

Do not use huge templates or any sketch plugins these days. Smooth sailing.

Too many Mac users simply still have not gotten the memo on using AU in Studio One. It is not a format that is thoroughly tested (in S1) and it usually the result of all the instability I have seen.

VST3 is the way - for any Mac user on S1

VP

[jamcat]

What happens in Cubase when you change the sample rate of your project?

Last time I used Cubase, it did a destructive hard conversion of all of your audio files to the new sample rate, without backing up the original files. Does it still do that?

From the beginning, Studio One has done a real-time soft conversion on the fly, and leaves your source audio files alone, untouched. That right there is the reason I switched and never looked back. That and because the Cubase engine couldn’t route from right to left, even after the Nuendo/SX rewrite. Is that also still the case?

[andypryce]

What happens in Cubase when you change the sample rate of your project?

Last time I used Cubase, it did a destructive hard conversion of all of your audio files to the new sample rate, without backing up the original files. Does it still do that?

From the beginning, Studio One has done a real-time soft conversion on the fly, and leaves your source audio files alone, untouched. That right there is the reason I switched and never looked back. That and because the Cubase engine couldn’t route from right to left, even after the Nuendo/SX rewrite. Is that also still the case?

It asks if you want to convert the audio files and if yes, creates new files.
Why would you change it in mid project though?
I have two templates, 44.1 for songs and 48 for video projects and never needed to change during a project.
Rarely at the beginning if the file I received is different.

What do you mean route from right to left?