Proxima - Synapse Audio

[exit-eternity]

Why would velocity reset the osc phase?

English clearly isn't your first language, but it does sound like you're not really sure what you are doing.

I assume velocity would be as good of a trigger as any to reset phase. Either way we have this discussion proof it's not synth for me why not we just leave it at this?

[tumface]

Use "Const" to have it reset to the same value every time.

[exit-eternity]

if const left pane, phase reset right pane, what does the knob do , i assume it +send level -send level. as a normal mod matrix. so will it turn phase +180deg and -180 deg.
see this is just not synth for me and that ok!! it just way too much question already and unclear from just simple basic feature. sure it my fault i stupid for not understand! but i understand many other synth! so it just not fit for me.
i dont say it bad synth!! it sound very nice and very nice presets come with him. i just for me, find confusing for basic feature.

[seafire]

Correct

Const - amt - osc init phase

If amt is set to zero, the osc phase will start at zero on every key press

[exit-eternity]

ok and if amt knob is anything other it act like degree knob? if so i think it ok, it does what i want but slightly different from other which ok. but i think it a bit confusing the way it does it. but if this is the case then i probably can use another round of the trial to see if it works for me.

i initially thought the reset phase modifier needed whatever to trigger it, so that why i put velocity. because that to me was the most logical to trigger a phase reset.

[seafire]

ok and if amt knob is anything other it act like degree knob?

Yes, tho I don't know exactly what the min/max value is (ie 90 or 180 etc)

[exit-eternity]

this is the problem i have. retrologue 2 which is a very old but very decent synth, it sounds ok, not as good as synapse audio. but, it has Freerunning phase, Random phase, and set phase. and for set phase it has a degree knob.
i dont remember the exact nominations but it has really great control over phase. for me this is very very important. i realise this synth is model from an old synth so its ok but WHY not have a simple knob for phase options. you dont even have to have free run or random - just have it be reset and degree. thats it. either or. very simple option for a very different sound especially for Supersaw type sounds. if it random it will be wider and more vary. if it fixed it will be more like JP8000 .

sorry for the discuss but for me thing like this very important. and if you think it bad discussion its ok. i will be quiet and not say anything else.

[Charlie Firpo]

I agree that a phaseknob is always nice. But the old analogs were always freerunning. But i may be missunderstanding you. But doesn't the constant value in the matrix when set to reset phase , work exactly like a knob? That is the constant amount = degree of phase reset? I wish Korg multi poly had a phase reset option. But then i'm reminded of all the fat great basses (moog, prophet, oscar etc) on records that musicians created in the past with freerunning analog synths. And if you need thoose ultra hard psytrance basses you could always sample them.

[seafire]

this is the problem i have. retrologue 2 which is a very old but very decent synth, it sounds ok, not as good as synapse audio. but, it has Freerunning phase, Random phase, and set phase. and for set phase it has a degree knob.
i dont remember the exact nominations but it has really great control over phase. for me this is very very important. i realise this synth is model from an old synth so its ok but WHY not have a simple knob for phase options. you dont even have to have free run or random - just have it be reset and degree. thats it. either or. very simple option for a very different sound especially for Supersaw type sounds. if it random it will be wider and more vary. if it fixed it will be more like JP8000 .

sorry for the discuss but for me thing like this very important. and if you think it bad discussion its ok. i will be quiet and not say anything else.

Well, there is no phase knob, so if you want to change it, you have to use the MM.

Out if the box, it is free running, in the MM you can use Constant or Random etc to get a start phase that suits. It's very simple really.

[Uncle E]

i dont remember the exact nominations but it has really great control over phase. for me this is very very important. i realise this synth is model from an old synth so its ok but WHY not have a simple knob for phase options. you dont even have to have free run or random - just have it be reset and degree. thats it. either or. very simple option for a very different sound especially for Supersaw type sounds. if it random it will be wider and more vary. if it fixed it will be more like JP8000 .

An easy solution is to create a preset with the mod matrix settings and start all your supersaw patches from there.

[Richard_Synapse]

Some options tend to be rarely used by most sound designers — for example, fixing oscillator/lfo phases or setting oscillator key tracking to non-standard values. We believe it is usually better to place these parameters in the modulation matrix, so the synth isn’t cluttered with seldom-used options.

Richard

[exit-eternity]

i thought it was common. sorry for bring it up. im curious to learn is a seldom used feature to reset phase/reset at certain degree. ill try the demo again now i know how to do it.

[Gam456]

Some options tend to be rarely used by most sound designers — for example, fixing oscillator/lfo phases or setting oscillator key tracking to non-standard values. We believe it is usually better to place these parameters in the modulation matrix, so the synth isn’t cluttered with seldom-used options.

Richard

Dune 3 have one on of the best mod matrix on the market.
What would be great is to bring your VA expérience into Dune, like vintage osc, vcf, drift, free running.

[seafire]

Well, you can do most of that in the MM/WT

The filters are all/mostly modelled on analogue, but are 'cheaper' versions on the cpu. Having an accurate filter etc with that much polyphony would cripple most computers, and also cut into their emulation market.

Dune is a happy medium imo. I never found any problems making analogue sounds. Of course, every time I make a juno pad or moog bass I'm not comparing it for accuracy, it just has to be in the ball park ( mainly because I'm taking it a bit further with modulations etc the original never had)

[zerocrossing]

Well, you can do most of that in the MM/WT

The filters are all/mostly modelled on analogue, but are 'cheaper' versions on the cpu. Having an accurate filter etc with that much polyphony would cripple most computers, and also cut into their emulation market.

Dune is a happy medium imo. I never found any problems making analogue sounds. Of course, every time I make a juno pad or moog bass I'm not comparing it for accuracy, it just has to be in the ball park ( mainly because I'm taking it a bit further with modulations etc the original never had)

It’s like stew meat vs steak cuts. Putting an aged NY Strip steak in a stew might be good, but it’s mostly a waste. Might even be bad in that context. If you’re working on a track that’s got a fairly sparse mix and you want to highlight an analog synth vibe, of course you pick a Legend, Proxima, etc. The modeling is going to be noticed, which is not to say that it’s critical for a great sounding track, but will benefit the goal of creating an analog vibe.

It’s really about the artist’s intent. Your audience may or may not care, but that’s not important. I’ve been thinking about this lately, as my daughter and I finish up season four of Stranger Things. I’m the exact age of Jonathan Byers, the oldest “kid.” I was in a band covering Should I Stay in the year Jonathan introduced it to his brother Will. My daughter is 12 and has zero connection with that time. That was probably her first time hearing the Clash, or many of the songs featured in the series. So, I’ve got nostalgia for this, and I appreciate the authenticity of the instrumentation used in the soundtrack and the period correct songs. If you redid the soundtrack using 00’s VA and replaced the songs with modern hits, it would not affect my daughter in any way.

Anyway, just something to think about. We obsess about this stuff a lot, but it should only serve our own inspiration, and if you are sharing your music, the enjoyment of it to your audience.