Sonik Synth 2...!!

[Beardedone]

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[Beardedone]

Doesn't anyone know?

[pricer]

it's controller change no 64 - goto your list edit page and insert a controller change, select no 64 and off you go, though it eats polyphony.

[Beardedone]

Thanks Pricer that's good news. But is there a knob on the GUI I can tweak?

[pricer]

MIDI Pedal Functions:
Sustain Pedal:

The sustain pedal is also known as the Damper Pedal. When operated it sends out a controller value of CC64. When the pedal is pressed ON the unit outputs a value of 127, when released OFF the unit outputs a value of 0. Tone-generators without the 'half-damper' implemented will interpret a value between 0 and 63 as OFF and a value of 64 to 127 as ON.
Sostenuto Pedal:

The sostenuto pedal is a type of selective sustain pedal found on acoustic grand-pianos. Pressing down the pedal, sending controller value CC66 with a value of 127, while holding notes on the keyboard will cause these notes to be sustained after you release them. Any notes played after pressing the pedal will not sustain. When the pedal is released it sends out controller value CC66 with a value of 0.
Soft Pedal:

The soft pedal works in two simultaneous ways. When the pedal is pressed, sending out controller value CC67 with a value of 127, the sound should be slightly softened in terms of volume and there should be a noticeable difference in the tone-colour of the sound. When the pedal is released it sends out controller value CC67 with a value of 0.
Legato Pedal:

When the legato pedal is pressed, sending out controller value CC68 with a value of 127, playing a different note changes the pitch of the current note without re-triggering the attack phase of the envelope of the sound. When the pedal is released it sends out controller value CC68 with a value of 0.

[pricer]

select the 'MIDI CTL' button, then trigger your pedal, that 'may' work (on the basis that MIDI CTL also works as MIDI LEARN). Personally, i just do it manually using the controller page in Cubase, i had a simple pedal a few years ago but it bust, so i just continued via the mouse (that's handling the mouse, stomping on my trackerball wouldn't really be very productive...fun though)!

[Beardedone]

Thanks very much good info here that I can use when I do play my keyboard. But I will do the same as you do in Cubase in Sonar or Live. I first need know how tweak sustain by recording SS2 or ST2 knob tweak. Problem is I have no idea which knob controls sustain. (I am a guitar player not a synthesizer maven. ) The dumb thing is that I may have already learned similar controls in another plugin but cannot translate this knowledge to an unfamiliar plugin - after over a year of solid ST2 use my understanding of the synth controllers is still lacking

[Caleb]

I don't think there is a "knob" for sustain Gordon. I think sustain is supported internally.

Maybe it works by setting the release stage of the AMP envelope at an impossibly high setting (not sure). I don't think the release knob will actually simulate it very well though as its highest setting probable won't be enough for any practical use.

In any case, if you are wanting to control it from the sequencer just set the change controller 64 values - you shouldn't need a knob to control it from your sequencer at all, you already know the value you need to use - you don't need to record a knob movement into your sequencer.

Caleb

[Squids]

You can just use a long release if you want but it will eat up a lot of polyphony so just do what I did which is use a sustain pedal is all. I hit some different notes as I was sustaining others but that sound has its own thing going on the longer you hold it.

BTW, it wasn't a combi. That was the 3rd motion synth parent patch in the regular single patch section. It's called EvolBubble and actually that one was in SS1 too. I always liked that sound. I think we used some additive synthesis stuff mixed with something else to create that weaving textural thing. I forget it has been so many years.

[Beardedone]

OK Cool Dave! Time to get a sustain pedal I guess.

[QC Freethinker]

Hi guys,

I'm relaively new to soft synth. I just got my SS2 and it seems real good.

I have a problem though.

When I release a key there's always a annoying sound coming out after. How can I solve this problem?

Thanks

[Squids]

Hi guys,

I'm relaively new to soft synth. I just got my SS2 and it seems real good.

I have a problem though.

When I release a key there's always a annoying sound coming out after. How can I solve this problem?

Thanks

Impossible to say without knowing all of the details of your system (because SS2 doesn't normally do this- unless it is a particular sound out of thousands that does it).

My suggestion is to contact IK tech support to troubleshoot your whole set up. But, in general, you want to be sure you have a fast enough machine to run it, to have at least 512 megs of ram (preferrably 1gig). Be sure that polyphony is managed well. Be running on OSX or Windows XP or 2000. If you are using the latest version of your host... which host are you using? (which sequencer?)

[QC Freethinker]

Hi guys,

I'm relaively new to soft synth. I just got my SS2 and it seems real good.

I have a problem though.

When I release a key there's always a annoying sound coming out after. How can I solve this problem?

Thanks

Impossible to say without knowing all of the details of your system (because SS2 doesn't normally do this- unless it is a particular sound out of thousands that does it).

My suggestion is to contact IK tech support to troubleshoot your whole set up. But, in general, you want to be sure you have a fast enough machine to run it, to have at least 512 megs of ram (preferrably 1gig). Be sure that polyphony is managed well. Be running on OSX or Windows XP or 2000. If you are using the latest version of your host... which host are you using? (which sequencer?)

Thanks Squids for your reply,

My system is a Pentium 2,53Mg with 764 RAM using Sonar 4.01 on a XP Home Edition platform.

The problem I experience is overall. It happens on each sound. It seems like the sample of the sounds is stopped before the end of the loop.

QC Freethinker

[Beardedone]

MIDI Pedal Functions:
Sustain Pedal:

The sustain pedal is also known as the Damper Pedal. When operated it sends out a controller value of CC64. When the pedal is pressed ON the unit outputs a value of 127, when released OFF the unit outputs a value of 0. Tone-generators without the 'half-damper' implemented will interpret a value between 0 and 63 as OFF and a value of 64 to 127 as ON.
Sostenuto Pedal:

The sostenuto pedal is a type of selective sustain pedal found on acoustic grand-pianos. Pressing down the pedal, sending controller value CC66 with a value of 127, while holding notes on the keyboard will cause these notes to be sustained after you release them. Any notes played after pressing the pedal will not sustain. When the pedal is released it sends out controller value CC66 with a value of 0.
Soft Pedal:

The soft pedal works in two simultaneous ways. When the pedal is pressed, sending out controller value CC67 with a value of 127, the sound should be slightly softened in terms of volume and there should be a noticeable difference in the tone-colour of the sound. When the pedal is released it sends out controller value CC67 with a value of 0.
Legato Pedal:

When the legato pedal is pressed, sending out controller value CC68 with a value of 127, playing a different note changes the pitch of the current note without re-triggering the attack phase of the envelope of the sound. When the pedal is released it sends out controller value CC68 with a value of 0.

I set up a CC64 envelope in FLStudio and it works like a charm. STill want to get a good pedal though as they are fairly cheap.

[pricer]

good to hear your sorted out Beardedone!