Two questions for RC 6 already

[lovemusic15]

BluGenes is right, this is not that easy. To train such a network you need MANY files,

Thanks,
Attila

I appreciate the feedback Attila. If the neural‑network route isn’t viable, how about this as an alternative — it’s already almost possible with the current generators.

Proposal: add a new generator called the Shape Generator. You would import your MIDI library into it, and each time you hit Generate the Shape Generator would:

pick a MIDI file from your supplied catalogue,
apply a rhythm from your imported rhythm patterns,
apply a “shape” (melodic/riff contour) from your supplied shapes.
Think of it like the Idea tool where you drag your favorite melodies, shapes, and rhythms into a channel — except everything would happen inside this single generator. The notes would be absolute, so the generator could change rhythm and shape reliably without the current problems that appear when working with custom MIDI.

You can already approximate this workflow with multiple variation tools, but it’s time‑consuming and results aren’t perfect. The Shape Generator would be the closest thing to training a personal model without heavy GPU work: it’s basically a user‑supplied dataset built into a generator. Each generator could be saved and tied to the MIDI you provided, so different generators would reflect different styles (for example, a “funk generator” would use funk rhythms, funk shapes, and funk melodies).

Right now, with the chord/melody generator the only real control is rhythm — applying a shape requires extra variation steps and chord changes. That makes creating a melody like the one in the screenshot difficult. If your favorite shapes and rhythms were already inside the Shape Generator, you’d get outputs you like instantly, but with new rhythmic and shape variations applied. It would always feel fresh yet stay close to your taste because it only works with what you give it.

This seems like a great workaround and should be relatively straightforward to implement, since the Idea tool and the variations already contain the needed components. It would be more practical, faster, and creatively inspiring — essentially a built‑in, user‑supplied library of favorite shapes, riffs, and melodies drawn from your custom MIDI files. For anyone asking for custom datasets, this would be an excellent alternative.

[lulukom]

I also think generators could do similar work, provided they continually expand their MIDI file database, which can be fed into the generator's database for analysis. Both the database and the results will be more interesting depending on the number of MIDI files loaded, and simple and effective controls for analysis settings and results are essential.

[BluGenes]

Well, that's an idea, a database approach. Now my creative programming juices are flowing lol. I am almost finished a huge database project myself, so, I know it's feasible. The coolest thing about a database, items can be randomly selected. You could even "weight" the selection too, kind of how the chord rules work in RC.

[lovemusic15]

Yeah, I definitely think this could be the workaround and the missing piece of the puzzle. You'd have your own dataset. You'd be able to hit a button where you can generate a new rhythm or adapt the shape. You would have the option to choose how much strength there is in the randomization or the change — just like when using variations, you could adapt certain parts of your generations. I think the amount of control you’d get would be amazing. It's like having all the variations inside one generator along with your own dataset — no more random generations.

Think about it like combining the capabilities of a Markov melody generator with a motive generator and a phrase morpher that moves one MIDI phrase with another, all inside one generator. Having the ability to add rests within the generations — basically a powerhouse of the top variations and generator features, all in one custom-made dataset generator.

[tatanka]

Wow, this all definitely sounds great

Only thing on my simple user mind: it should be as easy as possible implemented in the end (like it is now) and explained in the way of the new youtube channel videos.

And the dream would really be: integrated in the idea tool.

I really cant say how realistic this might be but would really be a dream

[lovemusic15]

Wow, this all definitely sounds great

Only thing on my simple user mind: it should be as easy as possible implemented in the end



I'm 100% with you. For me, I've always said the one thing with RC is that it needs to be a lot more user-friendly — so that's why my main goal is: one button should give you power, with a lot of smart stuff happening under the hood. It should be integrated into the Idea Tool, so whenever you use generators inside the Idea Tool, they'll keep producing things you actually like.

Once it's all done, I'll put up easy-to-follow videos for anyone who needs guidance. I've used this software for years and I'm always trying to find simple ways to get quick results. To clarify: make it as easy as possible to use, so you get the best results fast, without any guesswork.

[lovemusic15]

The release notes for the latest update state that variations can be applied to all tracks, but I can't locate that setting. My goal is to have a single rhythm applied to multiple tracks with one click; I assume that is what 'variation' refers to. Could someone confirm where this setting is?"

[BluGenes]

It's in your screen shot..

[lovemusic15]

It's in your screen shot..

Appreciate your response but I think you’re misunderstanding my point. That’s just one track, but my plan is: when I’ve opened a full project, my idea of 'copy variations to all tracks' would be that if I had a rhythm track, I would want that same rhythm to be applied to all tracks. As you can see, when I opened the second track there were no variations added to it. Currently I have to go track by track and add that follow-rhythm, but sometimes a project may have 16 tracks, so it’s very time-consuming. I want to be able to open a track that has a certain rhythm and change all others to that rhythm with one click."

[BluGenes]

I tested it. I used the your example follow rhythm track and it copied the rhythm to all the tracks. So, you must not be doing something right. You click the icon that looks like a sideways trident, 3 arrows pointing to the right.

[lovemusic15]

I tested it. I used the your example follow rhythm track and it copied the rhythm to all the tracks. So, you must not be doing something right. You click the icon that looks like a sideways trident, 3 arrows pointing to the right.

Totally looking in the wrong place cheers,

[lovemusic15]

Hi Attila,


A feature that I'm sure could be useful for many users — would it be possible to do the following?

Allow dragging and dropping multiple MIDI files at once so each file opens in its own channel/track.
Or allow dropping an entire folder so every MIDI in the folder imports into separate channels.
Preserve full-song MIDI behavior when a file contains a full arrangement.
This would save a lot of time when importing lots of song starters. Picture attached for reference.

[lulukom]

+1

[lovemusic15]

Hi Attila,

I’m requesting a major update to the idea tool focused specifically on working with custom MIDI files, tailored to each user's own library.

Inspired by features like Splice’s Stacks—where you pick one sample and it finds others in the same key with similar melodies—and Output’s popular Copilot, my concept works similarly but with more control. You provide an initial MIDI pattern (e.g., a melody you created or like), and the system searches your MIDI library to find compatible files that share the same notes and similar rhythms.

This means:

- No more random combinations or mismatched rhythms between parts.
- The tool intelligently highlights the best-fitting basslines, leads, chords, etc., that naturally complement your guide MIDI.
- Every time you generate ideas, the results feel cohesive and like they were meant to be together.
- Saves time and effort by eliminating endless trial and error.
- Encourages happy accidents and fresh inspiration based on your own material.
- The more MIDI files you have, the richer your options become.

Additionally, there would be an **optional button to apply rhythm alignment** across all selected MIDI files. This feature would tighten the timing and groove, ensuring all parts fit perfectly together rhythmically, making the overall arrangement feel polished and synchronized.

In practice, you’d import your guide MIDI, then the tool would automatically suggest compatible parts for each section (bass, lead, chords), making it easy to build strong song starters. Using the rhythm alignment button would further refine the groove consistency.

This feature would give users full control over their creative workflow while remixing old ideas or developing new ones — essentially our own version of Copilot but with deeper integration and user-driven selection.

With producers constantly seeking ways to speed up workflow and find inspiration quickly, this would be a powerful addition to RC and something no one else currently offers.

In short, it’s a smart, user-focused update that turns the idea tool into a true creative assistant tailored to your unique MIDI library.

[lulukom]

lovemusic15 , we are on the same wavelength !