So UDIO Caved to Record Labels and is Shutting Down...Will any AI Services Survive?
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- KVRian
- 1028 posts since 15 Feb, 2005
And of course artists will end up with scraps just like streaming...and probably no consent/veto rights
So anything that allows local training by users since users could train on signed artists must be under a bullseye...so things like IKM Resing may not have much time left
https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/ ... coalition/
So anything that allows local training by users since users could train on signed artists must be under a bullseye...so things like IKM Resing may not have much time left
https://www.musicbusinessworldwide.com/ ... coalition/
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Music had a one night stand with sound design.....And the condom broke
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1028 posts since 15 Feb, 2005
Music had a one night stand with sound design.....And the condom broke
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- KVRAF
- 16724 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
This is like saying that because samplers can sample signed artists that they must not have much time left. Nonsense.bermudagold wrote: Tue Nov 04, 2025 2:27 am So anything that allows local training by users since users could train on signed artists must be under a bullseye...so things like IKM Resing must not have much time left
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1028 posts since 15 Feb, 2005
not remotely analogous...because what samplers can reproduce is a tiny snapshot of recorded characteristics...not like what Ai can do recreating a reasonable facsimile...that is literally what label lawsuits and lawsuits from top artists like drake and swift are about...the ability to clone their voices and release material that could be mistaken for them diluting their brand power and autonomy...which has already happened...that's why services were forcing the cloning to the cloud where they could control it...and some services were making you sign a legal agreement as a user that you wouldn't train on published artists...that's the watershed moment that overturns the cart and changes everything to multiple stakeholders in the industry...the fact that legal arguments and proceedings were going well enough to get udio to fold, puts many use cases for the technology in real doubt...I am never one for hyperbole...and I don't think this qualifies...the legal precedent in the air is material and has the potential to affect a slew of existing and planned products/servicesghettosynth wrote: Tue Nov 11, 2025 10:02 amThis is like saying that because samplers can sample signed artists that they must not have much time left. Nonsense.bermudagold wrote: Tue Nov 04, 2025 2:27 am So anything that allows local training by users since users could train on signed artists must be under a bullseye...so things like IKM Resing must not have much time left
Music had a one night stand with sound design.....And the condom broke
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- KVRAF
- 16724 posts since 13 Oct, 2009
In your mind, perhaps, but that's not a legal argument. You don't seem to understand the Udio case or copyright. I'm not going to sit here and argue with you, because you really aren't saying anything interesting, but, it is exactly analogous.bermudagold wrote: Tue Nov 11, 2025 8:53 pmnot remotely analogous...because what samplers can reproduce is a tiny snapshot of recorded characteristics...not like what Ai can do recreating a reasonable facsimile...that is literally what label lawsuits and lawsuits from top artists like drake and swift are about...the ability to clone their voices and release material that could be mistaken for them diluting their brand power and autonomy...which has already happened...that's why services were forcing the cloning to the cloud where they could control it...and some services were making you sign a legal agreement as a user that you wouldn't train on published artists...that's the watershed moment that overturns the cart and changes everything to multiple stakeholders in the industry...the fact that legal arguments and proceedings were going well enough to get udio to fold, puts many use cases for the technology in real doubt...I am never one for hyperbole...and I don't think this qualifies...the legal precedent in the air is material and has the potential to affect a slew of existing and planned products/servicesghettosynth wrote: Tue Nov 11, 2025 10:02 amThis is like saying that because samplers can sample signed artists that they must not have much time left. Nonsense.bermudagold wrote: Tue Nov 04, 2025 2:27 am So anything that allows local training by users since users could train on signed artists must be under a bullseye...so things like IKM Resing must not have much time left
Enjoy your wish thinking.