Valhalla FutureVerb

[Funky40]

ok, went for it, despite that i have no further Reverb needs. Cause i´m a stupid addict, etc. etc. etc.

I just went thru some testing, VAL Future vs. Cinematic Rooms Pro.
Testprozedere:
- play Piano !...Pianoteq 9
- hosted in GP, which runs single core only. On a M4mac

- i loaded 8 * instances of each, these 8 each were patched in a serial config
- bypass one row, bypass the other, check for cPU consumption.
- same with a single instance of each, check vs. cPU consumption
- check vs. sound, what do i like more ?

Result, only valid vs. my taste and my machine:
- Val-Future eats more CPU. it´s hard to say, my M4 has so much power. probably 50% more ?
- Soundwise ? first CRP is my reference, it´s awesome, it can do highs, even with spiky high frequenzy percussive tones, yet the reverb does not pinch the ears, but you can still leave the highs in.
- if i was unpicky would i say i can love both as good. If i was picky would i say i prefer CRP over the new VAL future

- i kept in this test the delay part out of my equation

- i have plenty of (good) Reverbs. To make me like something beside the CRP *is* a tough job. Usually they all have some shit going in the highs that i don´t like. The VAL future is also very ok or even very good here. To me, that´s an achivement. To me: not many guys were able to achive "this" so far. (nice highs on pinchy percussive sounds)

- for $50 ?..... sort of a nobrainer if one does not have CRP already.
- If you have CRP already ? Guess if i had demoed it first, i´d not bought it. But Sean is a good guy,.....


- a quick test with VAL-Fut vs. "FX the delay" for some pitch warble.....that sounded nice. Me thinks it has it´s own flavor/behave vs. that. It did sound very round.



- its definitly the first Reverb i played with that makes me say, there is a similarity to it vs. CRP. For $50 ? good deal !


- what pisses me off with the VAL-future: the complete colour change when i switch the Reverb mode. The colour with dark mode was fine with me. Others not. Why would somebody do such shit ? are you guys completly losing any feel and understanding vs. how the senses of humans do work ?
- if you want to give it some visual feedback vs. "which mode active", add something like a visual bar somewhere that you can colour up.


higher CPU load vs. CRP, while the CRP has for my taste ( vs. that quick test) still a better sound nags on me. i hoped for a smaller footprint

[skarvika]

There is predelay actually, if you set the echo to Modern mode, it's a clean predelay.

Right, and on the reverb too, but my complaint is that there's no control over it. For my purposes, I find the built in predelay to be too long. It's a personal preference thing and ymmv, but because of that personal preference I feel like a control to set the predelay time is a no-brainer.

It's certainly a good plugin and if someone were starting out with a limited budget and needed both a reverb and delay, I'd recommend this one easily. It's efficient and it sounds good. But if you like having more control over the actual tone and behavior of a reverb like I do, then Valhalla has much better offerings. That being said, I'm sure things will be added to it down the line, Sean's great for that.

[Synthbuilder]

...what pisses me off with the VAL-future: the complete colour change when i switch the Reverb mode.

It does seem to be a thing with Valhalla stuff. I don't like it either. However, FutureVerb is less visually disturbing than the colour variations in VVV or Delay. I wish there was a mode where we could make the UIs stick to one colour - preferably to one like used in the excellent Ubermod.

[phreaque]

Is there any option to add ducking?

[_leras]

Lame.

Yes you are.

[_leras]

Is there any option to add ducking?

I like to do this in the DAW on a send channel if possible.

[phreaque]

I like to do this in the DAW on a send channel if possible.

But it isn't suitable in freestyle & live performance.

[_leras]

Nice. This seems worth the wait. Some really great timbres in this thing.

To me it also has a big sky type of vibe in some of it's sounds. Good work Valhalla.

[concealed identity]

I've found myself wanting stronger feedback at times on the the echo. Patching a feedback loop around the whole thing in Bitwig (either with the DC Offset workaround, or just putting it inside a 0ms Delay+) works for me though

Actually one of the only things I didn't like about Valhalla Delay when I tried it is that so many of the delay modes seemed to have delays dissipate somewhat quickly. This is normal for BBD style delays, but even for other ones I found myself always having feedback at 85+%. D16 Repeater also is like this, so I assume it's by design (I mean, it does make your delays less messy), but I didn't jive with either as much as I wanted to, as good as they both are.

[revvy]

the gushing and fanboying is a bit too much.

Who’s doing that in this thread?

[jens]

the usual suspects making it all about how they don't like stuff they aren't going to buy and takes 5 pages xD

I'm willing to give them some slack. It's hard to read a room when you have a 80 man orchestra in front of you.

[v1md]

All this nonsense about ray tracing and room dimensions for the reverb are irrelevant.

Well, some people actually care about these things. They are as relevant as anything in a thread discussing a reverb shipping with a Room mode.

[mi-os]

the gushing and fanboying is a bit too much.

Who’s doing that in this thread?

Sorry, i'm not biting. It would lead to nowhere good.

[andymcbain]

Very positive impressions of this one so far. While the parameters are limited it's quick to dial sounds in and I'm enjoying the built in "Abbey Road" trick with studio mode. Makes it sit really nicely with minimal effort.

[revvy]

the gushing and fanboying is a bit too much.

Who’s doing that in this thread?

Sorry, i'm not biting. It would lead to nowhere good.

Gotcha. Keeping the peace.

Rather than making a bullshit claim you can’t back up.

Nice