Why is modern music so awful

[Bunny_boy]

Why is some modern pop music so awful ?

The same reason some pop music has always been aweful.

Next.

Not in the 80ies.
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Dire Straits
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I'm not sure how I would categorize it. Thoughts?

Rock music? They're quite poppy as well, with the melodies and the hooks. Knofler is a great fan of bluegrass and other country / folk styles, so he incorporates them into the songs
Dire Straits were a massive band, one of the biggest in the 80s, so I'm assuming that their career, music styles and direction have been raked over many times

[_leras]

I have searched for the most horrible music albums and google AI also recommended me "Philosophy of the world" by the Shaggs". The Album was released in 1969 and reissued several times

google can feck off, its a great album

You made me listen...

... damn thats worse than any rick roll...

[wagtunes]

Define awful

Pain inducing.

Funny. I've never experienced physical pain listening to music. But thanks for the definition anyway,

[lunardigs]

Define awful

Pain inducing.

Funny. I've never experienced physical pain listening to music. But thanks for the definition anyway,

Oh, well, yeah, most people aren't susceptible. I guess. But for me, it happens all the time.
Like, I basically can't go to the movies anymore because I end up squirming around in my seat and having to choke back yelps ... it sucks
Bad music is a little more tolerable, sorta, but I still feel a lot of discomfort!

[Bunny_boy]

Define awful

Pain inducing.

Funny. I've never experienced physical pain listening to music. But thanks for the definition anyway,

I once saw Purient playing with Jessica Rylan and Emil Beauliau.
Emil told a joke about Merzbow and did some acapella sound pieces. Jessica did an improv acapella song about a dog she had met in the venue car park, followed by 40 minutes of power electronics (all homemade gear). Purient's set was him stabbing a amplifier with a mic. I think the night damaged my hearing.

[rj0]

Why is some modern pop music so awful ?

The same reason some pop music has always been aweful.

Next.

Not in the 80ies.
...
Dire Straits
...

I'm not sure how I would categorize it. Thoughts?

Rock music? They're quite poppy as well, with the melodies and the hooks. Knofler is a great fan of bluegrass and other country / folk styles, so he incorporates them into the songs

Many thanks.

Hybrid rock then?

I guess when I think of pop music, I think of simple song structure, constant rhythm/tempo, simple lyrics, and vocal choruses that build, all in a song less than 4 minutes long. This doesn't seem to fit much of any of those.

Dire Straits were a massive band, one of the biggest in the 80s, so I'm assuming that their career, music styles and direction have been raked over many times

I've only seen a very brief structural/technical analysis of the studio version of Sultans of Swing (one of their simpler songs/versions). Other than that, just some general comments about their musical skills, and the diversity of their songs.

[vurt]

they were boring music for dads.

[BertKoor]

Currently on TV: Stones Grrr Live.
Dunno when it was recorded (New Jersey concert) but Charlie was still alive.

My point: an AI version of Keith Richards probably performed better. Hell yeah, even my crappy rusty playing is miles better.

[Bunny_boy]

I've only seen a very brief structural/technical analysis of the studio version of Sultans of Swing (one of their simpler songs/versions). Other than that, just some general comments about their musical skills, and the diversity of their songs.

Isn't that like explaining how a magic trick works without seeing the trick?
Not that I'm saying Dire Straits music is, um, magic

[Bunny_boy]

Currently on TV: Stones Grrr Live.
Dunno when it was recorded (New Jersey concert) but Charlie was still alive.

My point: an AI version of Keith Richards probably performed better. Hell yeah, even my crappy rusty playing is miles better.

Just playing devil's advocate - but wouldn't an AI version be so tight, so accurate that any sort of variation in the riffs and timing would be erased?
Unless he was just playing terribly, then yeah, fair point!

[Aloysius]

For me at least, part of the reason is because I'm older. Even tracks I liked when I was a teenager seem a bit silly. How are you in ''love'' if you are in tremendous pain? How is the girl going to save your soul since she's not God? How are you going to love her forever if you're going to die in the next fifty years or less? Will you really want to lay with her for the rest of your life when she gets old and has to wear pads in bed? Etc.

[Bunny_boy]

For me at least, part of the reason is because I'm older. Even tracks I liked when I was a teenager seem a bit silly. How are you in ''love'' if you are in tremendous pain? How is the girl going to save your soul since she's not God? How are you going to love her forever if you're going to die in the next fifty years or less? Will you really want to lay with her for the rest of your life when she gets old and has to wear pads in bed? Etc.

I know there is an infinite amount of subjects for songs, but I've managed to amuse myself by imagining replacing all the songs of teenage hormones with ones about being middle aged - complaining about mortgage repayments, the fact that the kids have gone vegetarian, even the songs of today being rubbish

[Aloysius]

Do it. There's an audience.

[Bunny_boy]

Do it. There's an audience.

That's definitely not me, btw!!!

[rj0]

I've only seen a very brief structural/technical analysis of the studio version of Sultans of Swing (one of their simpler songs/versions). Other than that, just some general comments about their musical skills, and the diversity of their songs.

Isn't that like explaining how a magic trick works without seeing the trick?
Not that I'm saying Dire Straits music is, um, magic

Yeah, pretty much.

But, of course, while music composition and arrangement can describe some common aspects of music genres (such as pop music), it leaves it up to the band/producer to come up with the creative sound. Some bands target particular genres for that listening audience, some stretch that or even go their own way.