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Every time this topic pops up I think "Did Rick Beato just grunt out another long, old-man-shakes-fist-at-sky clickbait video saying something stupid again?" but then I check the OP and no, it was that other guy that did that.

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stoopicus wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 9:40 pm Every time this topic pops up I think "Did Rick Beato just grunt out another long, old-man-shakes-fist-at-sky clickbait video saying something stupid again?" but then I check the OP and no, it was that other guy that did that.
Tbf, Beato probably has made that video each time. It's just not linked here.

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Gamma-UT wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 9:54 pm
stoopicus wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 9:40 pm Every time this topic pops up I think "Did Rick Beato just grunt out another long, old-man-shakes-fist-at-sky clickbait video saying something stupid again?" but then I check the OP and no, it was that other guy that did that.
Tbf, Beato probably has made that video each time. It's just not linked here.
tbf he makes that video so often, it's bound to line up with posts here occasionally :hihi:
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stoopicus wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 10:50 pm Lets check…
"listening to spotify top ten so you don't have to!"

no rick, if you don't listen, i won't be forced by anyone to listen. that's not how this works!
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Grumpy teenagers are often experiencing moodiness due to a combination of developing brains, hormonal changes from puberty, and life stresses.
Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

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Aloysius wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 11:56 pm
Grumpy teenagers are often experiencing moodiness due to a combination of developing brains, hormonal changes from puberty, and life stresses.
Ok in his defense, while he is definitely grumpy, there’s a good few decades there between “Beato” and “being a teenager”

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So a while ago, I was in this band that insisted on practicing to a click track.
We started to work on a Eva Cassidy song.

Yep. Totally ruined it.
It made me grumpy!

A separation of my skills from the click track crowd quickly ensued.
I have a really fast computer, some good mics, vintage musical instruments, and lots of fancy software. Just need some talent

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stoopicus wrote: Fri Nov 21, 2025 4:42 am
Aloysius wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 11:56 pm
Grumpy teenagers are often experiencing moodiness due to a combination of developing brains, hormonal changes from puberty, and life stresses.
Ok in his defense, while he is definitely grumpy, there’s a good few decades there between “Beato” and “being a teenager”
That makes it worse, surely?

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Aloysius wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 11:56 pm
Grumpy teenagers are often experiencing moodiness due to a combination of developing brains, hormonal changes from puberty, and life stresses.
you can't mean me? my hair is whiter (and thinner on top :cry: ) than beato!
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Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

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ksandvik wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 2:35 am I actually like the current UK trend of moving the electronic dance music more and more into the atonal / polyrhytmic arena where the palette to make music is suddenly much bigger. Yes, old music is fine, but this is 2025.
Do you have any examples for the old farts in this thread?

I heard this today. They won't like it. :hihi:
https://open.spotify.com/track/2EpIs1tE ... uKLC7p5zFQ

Which seems to be a hyped up version of this
https://open.spotify.com/track/4Wrd7TpA ... B5w374fbSQ

Which they also won't like. :tu: :hihi:

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ksandvik wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 2:35 am I actually like the current UK trend of moving the electronic dance music more and more into the atonal / polyrhytmic arena where the palette to make music is suddenly much bigger. Yes, old music is fine, but this is 2025.
You mean stuff like Autechre, Aphex Twin, and Squarepusher?

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Bunny_boy wrote: Sun Nov 23, 2025 8:32 am
ksandvik wrote: Sat Nov 15, 2025 2:35 am I actually like the current UK trend of moving the electronic dance music more and more into the atonal / polyrhytmic arena where the palette to make music is suddenly much bigger. Yes, old music is fine, but this is 2025.
You mean stuff like Autechre, Aphex Twin, and Squarepusher?
I can't speak for him, but there was always experimental/electronic music that bordered between commercial and avantgarde, like the 3 you mentioned, which I don't think most would classify as dance music (with a few exceptions in some aphex tracks, and early autechre potentially).

But nowadays there is more stuff that clearly retains its dance/techno/commercial grounding, but expands the palette - so I presume he meant stuff like Blawan, Djrum, Objekt, Jamie xx, Skee Mask, Andy Stott, maybe even Holden, FKA twigs, Bicep, Kassem Mosse, etc. - just some of the more prominent names throughout the past decade or so, but clearly coming from the dancefloor side of things.

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Yeah, I was just making a slightly OT point that UK dance music has always been really creative (as has US, European, etc); and newer names are carrying this forward, like you say. Didn't known Djrum was from the UK.

That does feed back into the creativity of modern music though. I've heard loads of stuff this year that is from artists new to me that I've really liked - aya, NZO, and Lyra Pramuk as three examples.

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