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Dreemwave bassliner looks interesting, server-side processing turns me off to it tho...

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How is Peach? I have only read one bit about it that said it is functionally just a subset of what, per the reviewer, they should have incorporated into a revision of seqund, rather than go standalone with it. Same for Polyllop.

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kidslow wrote: Mon Dec 01, 2025 12:03 am How is Peach? I have only read one bit about it that said it is functionally just a subset of what, per the reviewer, they should have incorporated into a revision of seqund, rather than go standalone with it. Same for Polyllop.
Only played with Peach a bit but it definitely brings something new and very easy to play with - as are Seqund and Polyllop, the interaction design is excellent. Polyllop is very good. I dont see it as something Seqund should have been upgraded to. It does not have the probabilty which is the key aspect of Seqund. Peach is nothing like Seqund. By the sound of it, to me the reviewer you mention was wanting something for nothing.

I can imagine improvements to Peach and Polyllop - being able to set lanes at different rates would be good for Peach at at least

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sandandpaint wrote: Mon Dec 01, 2025 12:25 am Polyllop is very good. I dont see it as something Seqund should have been upgraded to. It does not have the probabilty which is the key aspect of Seqund. Peach is nothing like Seqund. By the sound of it, to me the reviewer you mention was wanting something for nothing.
It was one of those reddit drive by reviews, so you might be right. I've got Seqund but not the others.

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kidslow wrote: Mon Dec 01, 2025 12:59 am
sandandpaint wrote: Mon Dec 01, 2025 12:25 am Polyllop is very good. I dont see it as something Seqund should have been upgraded to. It does not have the probabilty which is the key aspect of Seqund. Peach is nothing like Seqund. By the sound of it, to me the reviewer you mention was wanting something for nothing.
It was one of those reddit drive by reviews, so you might be right. I've got Seqund but not the others.
I have them all and I agree with that driveby review.

It seems like they're making variations of the same product that could really be incorporated into one product.

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pekbro wrote: Sun Nov 30, 2025 7:02 pm Dreemwave bassliner looks interesting, server-side processing turns me off to it tho...
Totally agree, the server side processing is a no go

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There's a new option from MixedInKey called Wingman.


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@hey212 I've never heard of Wingman before, but having something like that with all of those useful features would've saved me days worth of time when I used to create dance remixes more regularly. I like the fact that you can export the audio and MIDI straight to your DAW's tracks via drag n drop. It looks like it would be condusive to a quick workflow too. Thanks for the heads up. :tu:

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You bet! As always it comes down to the accuracy of the chord detection with these tools, but it does seem like a pretty ideal workflow.

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Anyone buy animation station 2 with the current sale? Thoughts on it?

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Animation Station is decent; I use Stepic more often (sequencer). It's a matter of how it feels to use the GUI--Animation Station 2 feels clunky. It would be nifty to have a way to disable chord options from the Arp Type for the steps when playing with the random button.
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kraster wrote: Mon Dec 01, 2025 1:37 pm
kidslow wrote: Mon Dec 01, 2025 12:59 am
sandandpaint wrote: Mon Dec 01, 2025 12:25 am Polyllop is very good. I dont see it as something Seqund should have been upgraded to. It does not have the probabilty which is the key aspect of Seqund. Peach is nothing like Seqund. By the sound of it, to me the reviewer you mention was wanting something for nothing.
It was one of those reddit drive by reviews, so you might be right. I've got Seqund but not the others.
I have them all and I agree with that driveby review.

It seems like they're making variations of the same product that could really be incorporated into one product.
I dunno - you can sort of say that about synths as well, like why does U-He have so many and not just have one with all the functions (and with something like Falcon UVI give the omnibus synth a decent go). I have thought about how an amalgamated set would work and I think it would be very hard to get a genuinely amalgamated version with good workflow.

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Futurephonic Rhythmizer Fusion is totally worth it.

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pekbro wrote: Sun Nov 30, 2025 7:02 pm Dreemwave bassliner looks interesting, server-side processing turns me off to it tho...
Despite similar misgivings about the always online thing I bit the bullet and I'm glad I did. It's pretty instant in terms of generation.

It's very musical. It tends to avoid busier basslines but that's a good thing. A lot of bass generators I've used tend to just use notes in the selected scale with no rhyme nor reason to them.

Every bassline I've tried in Bassliner sounds coherent. A specific generation might not be what I'm specifically looking for but none of it has the "dog's dinner" vibe that a lot of these generators suffer from.

It could maybe do with a X2 function but that's not difficult to in a daw so not a deal breaker.

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hey212 wrote: Mon Dec 01, 2025 6:35 pm There's a new option from MixedInKey called Wingman.

I fell for it as there is no demo and it offers something no other plugin does at the moment.

What's good?
If (a big if) you have a clean and tune-d vocal recording, Wingman offers plenty of helpful and creative starting points for chord progressions and bass lines. So, I dare say, it's the perfect tool to get going with remixes.

What's bad?
As soon as the vocal is off-pitch or in bad quality (which many voice memos from amateurs and non-singers are), Wingman's pitch detection is as sloppy as Ableton Live's. In many cases, it does recognize the key correctly, a vocal melody is in, and offers starting points. But make sure the audio you feed it is edited to full bars, otherwise you get weird chord rhythms.

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